American Ambassador to Libya killed over Youtube video

[Brian37]

Can't say I'm very surprised by the news of savages acting like savages.

They are savages because of the climate they live in. All humans are capable of cruelty, not because all humans will be cruel, but because both creulty and compassion are part of our evolution.

I think the cure is to ridicule the violent fucks of any cause and lock arms with anyone who supports non violence, even in the face of being offended.

You cant change human nature, but you can plant seeds that can change an environment. Again, the only thing stoping Christianity in the west from the same savagry is the concept of non violence, peacful protest and the protection of dissent and free speech. It wasn't that long ago that Christianity was as savage as Islam.

The only differnece between Christianity and Islam is the time frame each are in, but all humans can become tribal and are tribal to varying degrees. The west has merely had the benefit of putting common law as a priorty to put a leash on tribalism getting violent.

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When Muslims realize the problem is Islam and antagonism towards the west, maybe that will change.

Yeah - and some day.....

You are right, do nothing and you will certainly get nothing.

You want to see the East as never being capable of change. While it is certainly not where the west wants it to be, the cracks are starting to show in many places. Saudi Arabia is now comming to grips that eventually they have to allow women to vote. It wasn't that long ago in Chrisitan history when women didn't have that right and that sexism was biblically based.

The human ability to grow inclusive is not widespead in the east, but I am not as pessimistic as you are. Gays are now more than ever in America being more widely accepted. That ability is not because of religion, but in spite of it.

I think Islam in the East can, with enough pressure, and with creating enough cracks by finding those within that are liberals and moderates, that we can foster the same positive changes America has learned the hard way, to find itself.

So if you think pigs fly, I am quite sure blacks a couple generations ago would have scoffed at the idea of a black president.

The reason I think it is possible, all be it not garunteed, is because the west has gotten over the same tribalism they are suffering now. But it wont happen at all if everyone like you keeps that "that will never happen" attitude.

I think humanity is as much capable of compassion as it is for cruelty and I am not going to sell any human being no matter where they live, I am not going sell them short by not at least offering them a different path.