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There is a big difference between...
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RE: There is a big difference between...
(September 16, 2009 at 4:11 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(September 16, 2009 at 2:37 pm)Saerules Wrote:
(September 16, 2009 at 3:45 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Heartless yes. Who is anyone to judge that just because you aren't rich you can't have children? That just disgusts me. Wealthy people abandon their children to childcare so their kids are raised loveless. Quality of life isn't about money.

And such people shouldn't be having children for other reasons. If you would have a child, only to abandon them: you should not have had that child in the first place.

And who the hell told you that one's quality of life isn't about money? Money is one of the most important factors in determining life quality: Can you pay for heating, food you like, a decent house, a decent car, media and entertainment, etc.? It is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT factor in determining quality of life. Resources and comforts are both purchased by money, and without money: one must live a very simple and often terrible life.

Take away every person's money, and see how far their quality of life deteriorates: Back into the stone age.

More money than you need deteriorates your quality of life too. People move to cities with poorer community, or separate themselves ..also destructive. Like Ace says money serves a purpose: to replace bartering.

How does simple equate to terrible?? A simple life can be the happiest. To have mastery over the drive for wealth beyond your needs is healthy.

A hard life can be happy, an easy life can be destructive.

I find the loss of my modern conveniences terrible Smile It is true that a simple life can be happy (look at dogs)... but happiness is not the only attribute to consider in the quality of one's life. Accomplishment, knowledge, convenience, sociality, impact, entertainment... these are all parts of one's quality of life... and this list is not all inclusive.

A stone age lifestyle often lacks greater knowledge (and as a result, many forms of entertainment), is much narrower socially, has little impact upon the world, and can accomplish much less. Quite simply, this lifestyle impedes the advance of the sciences, medicines, communication, and logical understanding of the universe.

There are reasons that we now have modern culture instead: we suffer less from diseases and plagues, we no longer tie our very existence to the mercy of unpredictable nature, we have many things that make our life more convenient, we much less often run into the wall of being unable to communicate with others, we work many times more efficiently, we are able to understand better how we got here, our purpose is now rarely to just survive and have children, women and their babies die less often in childbirth, people die less often from diseases, a drought no longer wipes out our ability to survive due to global trading, we are able to enjoy entertainment that evaded even the imagination of our long dead ancestors, etc.

A hard life can be happy... but lacks a great deal of substance, therefore its quality is nowhere near that of the easy life. The difference is that between a decent 2 page essay, and a good thousand page novel.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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There is a big difference between... - by Retorth - September 13, 2009 at 5:39 am
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RE: There is a big difference between... - by Retorth - September 13, 2009 at 10:19 am
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Tiberius - September 13, 2009 at 12:20 pm
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RE: There is a big difference between... - by Retorth - September 13, 2009 at 1:12 pm
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RE: There is a big difference between... - by Violet - September 16, 2009 at 2:37 pm
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RE: There is a big difference between... - by Violet - September 16, 2009 at 4:26 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Eilonnwy - September 16, 2009 at 4:59 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by fr0d0 - September 16, 2009 at 4:11 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Edwardo Piet - September 16, 2009 at 4:15 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Violet - September 16, 2009 at 5:53 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by fr0d0 - September 16, 2009 at 6:27 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Edwardo Piet - September 16, 2009 at 3:20 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Edwardo Piet - September 16, 2009 at 4:04 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Violet - September 16, 2009 at 5:23 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by fr0d0 - September 16, 2009 at 5:50 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Edwardo Piet - September 16, 2009 at 4:41 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Violet - September 16, 2009 at 5:57 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by fr0d0 - September 16, 2009 at 6:45 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Ace Otana - September 16, 2009 at 5:11 pm
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RE: There is a big difference between... - by Violet - September 16, 2009 at 6:28 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Edwardo Piet - September 16, 2009 at 5:56 pm
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RE: There is a big difference between... - by Violet - September 16, 2009 at 8:00 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by fr0d0 - September 17, 2009 at 2:19 am
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Edwardo Piet - September 16, 2009 at 8:23 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Violet - September 16, 2009 at 8:50 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Edwardo Piet - September 16, 2009 at 9:18 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Violet - September 16, 2009 at 9:33 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by Eilonnwy - September 16, 2009 at 11:03 pm
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RE: There is a big difference between... - by Violet - September 17, 2009 at 1:44 pm
RE: There is a big difference between... - by fr0d0 - September 17, 2009 at 2:46 pm
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