RE: The usual introductions
September 14, 2012 at 9:22 am
(This post was last modified: September 14, 2012 at 9:24 am by Dumac Dwarfking.)
(September 14, 2012 at 8:51 am)Grazer501 Wrote: Dumac
Virtually no historian doubts his existence.
My apologies, I can see what you got from what I said. I am not denying the existence of Jesus as a person, what I don't believe is that he is the son of God.
(September 14, 2012 at 8:51 am)Grazer501 Wrote: The gospel accounts are treated as historical biographies, written unprecedentedly early for documents of the time, containing eye witness accounts or other sources. Pauls letters have been dated earlier than the gospels and contain core elements of the Christian faith. Paul got these from others. There was a core of Christianity within a year or 2 of Jesus's reported death and resurrection. It was born and rose very quickly and for it to do so based on a man who never existed is unheard of in history. As C.F.D Moule puts it;
The gospels were written at least thirty years after the supposed resurrection of Jesus. The only other reference to it is from Paul in 1 Corinthians twenty years after the event. As well as this, the books were written by anonymousGreek Christians, not eyewitnesses. Paul himself testifies as not being witness to it. The actual followers of Jesus were Aramaic speaking peasants from Galilee. Stories of Jesus and his resurrection had been in circulation for 30 years before anyone wrote about it, plenty of time for facts to become skewed by misinterpretations and exaggerations, as is evidenced by different accounts of how it happened in each gospel. Just a few quick examples, can you tell me what day Jesus died? Can you tell me if both robbers mocked Jesus or only one? Did Mary go alone to Jesus's tomb or with other women?
There are numerous discrepancies.
(September 14, 2012 at 8:51 am)Grazer501 Wrote: I have no problems with the theory of evolution or the big bang theory. Neither of them disprove God in anyway as they are 2 different types of explanation. I'm not a young earth creationist btw.
I've met quite a few Christians who share your view, but then you would have to admit that the accounts that the bible gives about the origin of the world is entirely untrue, how do you justify that?
