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[Eilonnwy]

EvF, I think it's better to say there's a difference when the fetus is viable, meaning when it can survive on it's own.

Saerules, I'm done explaining the circumstances of my childhood to you, since you're quick to jump to conclusions about my parents feel you can judge their decision to have children as mature adults. It's quite arrogant and insulting to say my parents are selfish for having me, so please do not do it again. I'd wondered if you'd have the sense to even apologize. Apparently not.

I think the problem here is you are considering this in terms of a perfect world, and everyone is considering it in terms of a realistic world and how things really are. You cannot control people and tell them how to make decisions. The world will never work according to what you think is sensible, pragmatic, and realistic. You don't have the right to impose your standards on what makes a family, no matter how right you think you are. Grow up a little more and maybe then you'll understand.

At the core, I agree with what you are trying to say. People should have children when they are ready and financially sound. We should educate people on contraceptives. However once the pregnancy happens we are dealing with something completely different and then it doesn't become an easy choice of what's financially sound. It becomes a personal decision that is never easy whichever way you go. I don't understand why you can't recognize that. Maybe because you haven't experienced first hand what it's like? If you care for unborn life so little and have no problem aborting it because it's inconvenient, then that's your choice. That is what it means to be pro-choice. I am pro-choice. Despite all this I still don't have to like abortion and given my own choice I have the right NOT to abort. And you don't have the right to insist otherwise, just as I have no right to insist you keep a child. I don't care what your sound reasoning for aborting is. It's MY choice, and I have always been consistent with my stance on this. All I've ever said is it's better to prevent the pregnancy from ever happening so women don't have to go through the pain of abortions, because whatever you may think, they are NOT easy, whatever your reasoning may be.

I only shared the story of my two sisters to show both perspectives, because I thought it was important to understand how complicated and uneasy a choice it is. I do not wish to talk about my family anymore.