RE: OK Christians. your chance. Convince me of God.
September 21, 2012 at 2:25 pm
(This post was last modified: September 21, 2012 at 2:34 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
See, and the explanation I was operating on for what constitutes a necesserary condition was
"A is necessary for B iff (“if and only if”) B can’t occur without A"
or
"it is impossible to have Y without X"
But if you don't require the -if and only if- for necessary conditions then what would the difference between a sufficient and a necessary condition be? How could you determine which rule of inference was the correct rule of inference to leverage?
For example, getting an a is sufficient for passing the class, but it is not necessary (you could get a c and pass)
But if getting an a is stated to be the only way to pass, that passing without an A was impossible....if and only if you get an A..that would be necessary condition.
As I keep enjoying this subject it occurs to me that only if would probably indicate a necessary conditionin colloquial better than if and only if. So maybe
"The narrative is from other than god -only if- one can find contradictions."
(as an amusing aside, the article that this conversation led me to touches upon the notion that the word "if" in english does not describe a uniform condition, leading to problems)
"A is necessary for B iff (“if and only if”) B can’t occur without A"
or
"it is impossible to have Y without X"
But if you don't require the -if and only if- for necessary conditions then what would the difference between a sufficient and a necessary condition be? How could you determine which rule of inference was the correct rule of inference to leverage?
For example, getting an a is sufficient for passing the class, but it is not necessary (you could get a c and pass)
But if getting an a is stated to be the only way to pass, that passing without an A was impossible....if and only if you get an A..that would be necessary condition.
As I keep enjoying this subject it occurs to me that only if would probably indicate a necessary conditionin colloquial better than if and only if. So maybe
"The narrative is from other than god -only if- one can find contradictions."
(as an amusing aside, the article that this conversation led me to touches upon the notion that the word "if" in english does not describe a uniform condition, leading to problems)
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