RE: OK Christians. your chance. Convince me of God.
September 21, 2012 at 2:38 pm
(This post was last modified: September 21, 2012 at 2:44 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Um, Mystic, I most definitevly -can- think of it that way, demonstrated by the fact that I just did (and further demonstrating the problems with ambiguity in wording). What I just linked to you is from the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosphy...so I feel pretty confident that I'm working with "what logicians mean"..................whatever the hell that means....
The two forms of argument you offered each have an unstated bit about A being a sufficient or necessary condition of B. Which form you're going to use depends on which way you're going, whether you're arguing that A is a sufficient condition (then modus ponens), or A is a necessary condition (then modus tollens). The rules of inference that follow depend upon this.
Looking at that verse it seems to me to be establishing a sufficient condition, not a necessary condition Mystic. If that were the case, then modus tollens is not the valid form of inference for such a premise. Which is what I've been trying to explain. I could, of course, be incorrect.
The two forms of argument you offered each have an unstated bit about A being a sufficient or necessary condition of B. Which form you're going to use depends on which way you're going, whether you're arguing that A is a sufficient condition (then modus ponens), or A is a necessary condition (then modus tollens). The rules of inference that follow depend upon this.
Looking at that verse it seems to me to be establishing a sufficient condition, not a necessary condition Mystic. If that were the case, then modus tollens is not the valid form of inference for such a premise. Which is what I've been trying to explain. I could, of course, be incorrect.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
