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Does God never guide disbelievers?
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RE: Does God never guide disbelievers?
(September 22, 2012 at 3:47 pm)Rayaan Wrote:
(September 22, 2012 at 1:36 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There is a lot of verses that state God doesn’t guide the disbelieving people. Other verses state that God doesn’t guide the unjust people

That's not a contradiction, is it?

No it isn't.

But this is where the contradiction lies:

Quran shows it's possible to go from unjust state to just state. Doing so would be "guidance".

Likewise, going from disbelief to belief, would be "guidance".

Both are shown to be possible.

Yet many verses show God doesn't guide disbelievers or unjust. Then how do they become just or believers when that is guidance?

This is also with perspective, no soul is guided except with permission of God, and no soul believes unless with permission of God.

A verse that is relevant, in that it says God guides to belief:




(September 22, 2012 at 3:53 pm)TaraJo Wrote:
(September 22, 2012 at 3:00 pm)whateverist Wrote: I know. Threaten me with eternal torment of any grotesque form you can think of and I'll laugh in your face. But hold a sword over my living body and I'll give you all the hosannas and praise-be-to-Allah's you require.

And if you still don't go along, at least they get to spread their religion in the elimination of anyone who doesn't buy into it.

Well to be honest, the Arabs deserved it. 1st the Prophet offered them peace, but they wouldn't accept that. They fought him, kicked the believers out of their homes...and then retaliation happened but even then it says if they offer you peace, to accept peace.

The Arabs kept up breaking treaties, so then in the last treaty, the Prophet taught to go kill them unless they accept Islam.

At any rate, I think it was too drastic a measure, but it wasn't like that was the first option on the table. They in a way forced the Prophet to do so.
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Messages In This Thread
Does God never guide disbelievers? - by MysticKnight - September 22, 2012 at 1:36 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by Nine - September 22, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by MysticKnight - September 22, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by Nine - September 22, 2012 at 2:20 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by MysticKnight - September 22, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by Whateverist - September 22, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by Minimalist - September 22, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by Whateverist - September 22, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by TaraJo - September 22, 2012 at 3:53 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by MysticKnight - September 22, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by Rayaan - September 22, 2012 at 3:47 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by MysticKnight - September 22, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by Reforged - September 23, 2012 at 8:08 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by Rayaan - September 23, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by MysticKnight - September 23, 2012 at 8:18 pm
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by KichigaiNeko - September 24, 2012 at 9:04 am
RE: Does God never guide disbelievers? - by MysticKnight - September 24, 2012 at 1:32 pm

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