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Sinners cannot understand the Bible!
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RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible!
Arcanus Wrote:There is no contradiction between (1) "I and the Father are one" and (2) "the Father is greater than I" because the Father is 'greater' in one respect while they are 'one' in another respect. The two statements are not logical inversions of each other (i.e., if the former is P, in no sense is the latter ¬P). In order to affirm this as a contradiction, you have to force upon the text that their being 'one' and the Father being 'greater' are being affirmed in the same respect, because it is not found within the text itself. Contradictions forced upon the text instead of being derived from the text is blatantly illegitimate.

Quote:- a statement or proposition that contradicts or denies another or itself and is logically incongruous.
- direct opposition between things compared; inconsistency.


"I and the father are one"

He claims they are both one entity.

"The father is greater then I"

Then he claims they are two entitles. It is impossible if it is one single entity to have half of it greater then itself.


That is a clear contradiction, amongst the many others in the bible, needless to say.
How do you mean "one respect" and "another respect"? Please explain that, thank you.
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Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by dry land fish - August 28, 2009 at 10:19 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Minimalist - August 28, 2009 at 11:41 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by theVOID - August 29, 2009 at 2:37 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by fr0d0 - August 29, 2009 at 4:51 am
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RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by fr0d0 - August 29, 2009 at 4:06 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Violet - August 30, 2009 at 2:52 am
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RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Retorth - August 29, 2009 at 6:16 am
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RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Retorth - August 29, 2009 at 7:04 am
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RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Retorth - August 29, 2009 at 7:34 am
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RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Violet - September 2, 2009 at 4:15 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by fr0d0 - September 2, 2009 at 4:56 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by dry land fish - September 2, 2009 at 4:18 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Minimalist - September 2, 2009 at 4:58 pm
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RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by fr0d0 - September 2, 2009 at 6:15 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Violet - September 2, 2009 at 6:18 pm
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RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Violet - September 2, 2009 at 6:20 pm
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RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by theVOID - September 3, 2009 at 3:47 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Edwardo Piet - September 2, 2009 at 10:03 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Ryft - September 5, 2009 at 11:38 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Dotard - September 19, 2009 at 1:31 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Ryft - September 19, 2009 at 12:43 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Retorth - September 19, 2009 at 1:22 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Ryft - September 19, 2009 at 2:59 am
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RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Violet - September 19, 2009 at 4:34 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by padraic - September 19, 2009 at 4:46 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Dotard - September 19, 2009 at 2:52 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Ryft - September 19, 2009 at 6:25 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Dotard - September 19, 2009 at 6:39 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Ryft - September 19, 2009 at 6:55 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by theVOID - September 19, 2009 at 9:43 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Ryft - September 20, 2009 at 11:11 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Dotard - September 19, 2009 at 9:16 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by fr0d0 - September 20, 2009 at 4:39 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by theVOID - September 20, 2009 at 4:43 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Retorth - September 20, 2009 at 4:44 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by fr0d0 - September 20, 2009 at 4:57 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Retorth - September 20, 2009 at 5:09 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by fr0d0 - September 20, 2009 at 5:42 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by theVOID - September 20, 2009 at 6:47 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Dotard - September 20, 2009 at 9:13 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Retorth - September 20, 2009 at 12:20 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by fr0d0 - September 20, 2009 at 12:30 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Ryft - September 20, 2009 at 12:44 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Dotard - September 21, 2009 at 9:13 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by ecolox - September 21, 2009 at 3:37 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Ryft - September 21, 2009 at 4:43 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Dotard - September 21, 2009 at 9:30 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by ecolox - September 21, 2009 at 11:03 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Dotard - September 22, 2009 at 9:10 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by ecolox - September 22, 2009 at 1:51 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Ryft - September 27, 2009 at 2:57 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Minimalist - September 22, 2009 at 12:11 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by ecolox - September 22, 2009 at 1:25 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Retorth - September 22, 2009 at 7:04 am
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Edwardo Piet - September 22, 2009 at 1:41 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Retorth - September 22, 2009 at 1:46 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Violet - September 22, 2009 at 1:59 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by ecolox - September 22, 2009 at 2:00 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Edwardo Piet - September 22, 2009 at 5:27 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by ecolox - September 23, 2009 at 3:46 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Violet - September 23, 2009 at 5:25 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Edwardo Piet - September 24, 2009 at 6:11 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Violet - September 22, 2009 at 2:02 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Retorth - September 22, 2009 at 2:16 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Violet - September 23, 2009 at 4:15 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by ecolox - September 23, 2009 at 4:33 pm
RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by Violet - September 23, 2009 at 5:47 pm
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RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible! - by amw79 - September 24, 2009 at 5:05 pm
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