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God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
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RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(September 28, 2012 at 12:50 am)Drich Wrote: For if all who accepted Christ died shortly there after who would be left to answer questions and provide biblical clarity? Without 'us' all that would remain of Christianity is your current understanding of it. Which isn't enough to do anyone much Good.
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If all returned then who would be left to bring the rest of the flock? Who would attend to you good people, or your counterparts from that time till this? Who would see to all of the other potential converts who have not yet heard of Christ?
Kirk: "What does god need with a starship?"

Why does god required you to tell me about him?
Can't he do it himself?
You see, from my standing point, you may have been deceived into believing something which is wrong. After all, you're just human. You and all religious people on the planet are just human and are very likely deceived by other humans of the fact that the divine exists.

Why can't god present himself to all mankind, repeatedly, for all to know? Why must we accept what the people that come before us say? That looks like a very flawed system and one that will lead to diverging statements regarding the "original" deity(s) - if he/they exist.

(September 28, 2012 at 12:50 am)Drich Wrote: I have been tasked to share what God has given me, so that others may also come to know God. I have stared down the face of death or at least enough to know that if when it is my time then I will welcome my fate. Granted no one wants to die badly, but if it is my lot to do so then i will accept what I am tasked to complete.
If he gave you something, why doesn't he give it to everyone?
Why must I be first convinced that he exists and then convince myself that some psychological mumbo-jumbo is proof that my original conviction was true?
Why?

(September 28, 2012 at 12:50 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote:You are sucked into the promise of a fictional utopia. I hate to tell you that the meme of "afterlife" was around way before your god myth was invented, and other beleivers such as Muslims and Hindus and Shintoists have their versions too.
Actually no. Islam did not start till around 610 AD, Shintoist got their start 130 years after the muslims, and Hindus we are reborn into this life.
It may sound cliche but what The God of the bible offers to Christians is unique in the time it was promised.
The Egyptian religion lasted for about 4000 years.... until ~year 0, and Julius Cesar.
They had a cult of the dead; a belief in the afterlife; They had to pass some judgement to enter the afterlife....
Just read:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topi...f-the-dead Wrote:It was thought that the next world might be located in the area around the tomb (and consequently near the living); on the “perfect ways of the West,” as it is expressed in Old Kingdom invocations; among the stars or in the celestial regions with the sun god; or in the underworld, the domain of Osiris. One prominent notion was that of the “Elysian Fields,” where the deceased could enjoy an ideal agricultural existence in a marshy land of plenty. The journey to the next world was fraught with obstacles. It could be imagined as a passage by ferry past a succession of portals, or through an “Island of Fire.” One crucial test was the judgment after death, a subject often depicted from the New Kingdom onward. The date of origin of this belief is uncertain, but it was probably no later than the late Old Kingdom. The related text, Chapter 125 of the Book of the Dead, responded magically to the dangers of the judgment, which assessed the deceased’s conformity with maat. Those who failed the judgment would “die a second time” and would be cast outside the ordered cosmos. In the demotic story of Setna (3rd century bce), this notion of moral retribution acquired overtones similar to those of the Christian judgment after death.

And this is just one of the better documented ancient religions (discounting greek and roman). All around the world, people had cults related to the dead. It's probably one of the main reasons why religion came to be. The denial of the end brought forth by the biological death.
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RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Drich - September 23, 2012 at 10:55 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Brian37 - September 27, 2012 at 10:34 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Drich - September 27, 2012 at 11:11 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Cinjin - September 28, 2012 at 12:35 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Godschild - September 28, 2012 at 1:10 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 23, 2012 at 10:57 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Drich - September 23, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 23, 2012 at 11:07 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Drich - September 23, 2012 at 11:22 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 23, 2012 at 11:38 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Drich - September 23, 2012 at 11:58 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Darkstar - September 24, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 24, 2012 at 1:12 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Godschild - September 24, 2012 at 4:50 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 24, 2012 at 12:48 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Godschild - September 24, 2012 at 9:04 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 25, 2012 at 1:33 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Undeceived - September 25, 2012 at 2:15 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 25, 2012 at 2:25 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Undeceived - September 25, 2012 at 2:52 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 25, 2012 at 2:58 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 27, 2012 at 11:00 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Reforged - September 24, 2012 at 6:08 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Drich - September 24, 2012 at 9:01 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by IATIA - September 27, 2012 at 8:08 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by IATIA - September 28, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice - by Minimalist - October 1, 2012 at 10:28 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Kayenneh - September 24, 2012 at 12:13 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Cinjin - September 27, 2012 at 8:49 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 24, 2012 at 9:04 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 25, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 25, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Darkstar - September 24, 2012 at 10:25 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 25, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 25, 2012 at 3:37 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Cyberman - September 27, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by LastPoet - September 27, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Cato - September 27, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Cinjin - September 28, 2012 at 1:13 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Cato - September 28, 2012 at 9:42 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Darkstar - September 27, 2012 at 11:15 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 28, 2012 at 12:34 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Darkstar - September 28, 2012 at 12:43 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Brian37 - September 27, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 28, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Cinjin - September 28, 2012 at 1:05 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 28, 2012 at 1:31 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by pocaracas - September 28, 2012 at 5:44 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 28, 2012 at 7:32 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Polaris - September 28, 2012 at 1:13 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Cinjin - September 28, 2012 at 1:36 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Polaris - September 28, 2012 at 2:35 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Polaris - September 28, 2012 at 8:32 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Cinjin - September 28, 2012 at 11:46 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Polaris - September 28, 2012 at 9:51 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Brian37 - September 28, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 12:13 am
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Brian37 - September 29, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 8:46 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 1:12 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Cinjin - September 30, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 11:02 pm
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story) - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 11:21 pm

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