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10 questions for your pastor
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RE: 10 questions for your pastor
(October 2, 2012 at 2:19 am)Godschild Wrote: Knowing your disobeying has nothing to do with good and evil necessarily, small children will knowingly disobey their parents, you can't necessarily call that doing or have knowledge of doing evil. Adam and Eve met with God in the cool of the evening to worship Him, so the act of disobedience had nothing to do with worship. Lucifer worshiped God before he fell, so your theory fails. God allowed them to be tempted, yes, because He desired that they love Him of their own free will, not because He kept Lucifer away, who by the way they did not know existed.

Okay, the worship part fails, but Lucifer knew the difference between good and evil. Keep in mind that Adam and Eve are less than 24 hour old and have no conscience. Here's a hypothetical scenario:

You have a two-year old child (about the same level of moral progression as the newborn Adam and Eve) and you tell him not to eat cookies, but you don't say why. Another person comes into the room and gives the kid a cookie, saying that its okay to eat cookies. The kid then eats the cookie. You return to find the cookie eaten and proceed to kick your child out of the house, after badly abusing him (childbirth pains, etc. Curses inflicted on Adam and Eve by god). You did this because you loved him, and he needed to learn his lesson for disobedience. Ethical? NO!




If Jesus volunteerd, then why did he say: Mark 15:34 And at three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”)? (The part in parenthesis was part of the original quote I found).

I also find it hard to believe that sacrificing Jesus was the only way. If god could not accomplish it in another way, the how is he all-powerful? Why couldn't we just accept god, why do we need a savior?
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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10 questions for your pastor - by StewartP - September 6, 2008 at 1:03 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Pete - September 6, 2008 at 10:13 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Lucifer Morningstar - September 7, 2008 at 3:33 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by StewartP - September 7, 2008 at 4:09 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Pete - September 7, 2008 at 5:37 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Eilonnwy - September 8, 2008 at 5:15 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Pete - September 10, 2008 at 9:12 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by chatpilot - September 7, 2008 at 9:09 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Eilonnwy - September 7, 2008 at 4:49 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Meatball - September 7, 2008 at 5:47 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by FutureAndAHope - September 10, 2008 at 6:58 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Eilonnwy - September 10, 2008 at 9:16 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Fitzwilly - September 30, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 1, 2012 at 3:16 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Leafmold - September 11, 2008 at 2:12 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by solidsquid - September 11, 2008 at 3:27 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by FutureAndAHope - September 11, 2008 at 6:27 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Eilonnwy - September 11, 2008 at 9:46 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Jason Jarred - September 11, 2008 at 11:25 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Eilonnwy - September 12, 2008 at 9:32 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Ace Otana - September 12, 2008 at 11:48 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Tiberius - September 12, 2008 at 11:50 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Ace Otana - September 12, 2008 at 11:53 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darwinian - September 16, 2008 at 9:14 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Ace Otana - September 22, 2008 at 7:28 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by FutureAndAHope - September 16, 2008 at 7:52 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by allan175 - September 16, 2008 at 9:09 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Jason Jarred - September 16, 2008 at 10:02 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by solidsquid - September 16, 2008 at 11:05 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Tiberius - September 17, 2008 at 5:44 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Eilonnwy - September 17, 2008 at 7:10 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Edwardo Piet - September 22, 2008 at 6:33 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Ace Otana - September 22, 2008 at 7:59 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Ace Otana - September 22, 2008 at 8:08 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by FutureAndAHope - September 24, 2008 at 5:01 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Ace Otana - September 24, 2008 at 8:06 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by chatpilot - September 24, 2008 at 10:38 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darwinian - September 30, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 7:21 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Kayenneh - September 30, 2012 at 7:43 pm
10 questions for your pastor - by LiakosVikernes - October 1, 2012 at 11:47 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 2:10 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Jackalope - October 1, 2012 at 2:45 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 1, 2012 at 4:28 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 1, 2012 at 9:52 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 11:24 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 2, 2012 at 2:19 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 2, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 2, 2012 at 5:17 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 2, 2012 at 8:51 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 3, 2012 at 2:02 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Jaysyn - October 4, 2012 at 8:54 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 8, 2012 at 11:19 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 11:22 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 9, 2012 at 12:30 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by popeyespappy - October 9, 2012 at 12:35 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 9, 2012 at 12:48 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 9, 2012 at 1:00 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 9, 2012 at 1:13 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Minimalist - October 1, 2012 at 12:41 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by downbeatplumb - October 1, 2012 at 1:42 pm
10 questions for your pastor - by LiakosVikernes - October 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Kayenneh - October 1, 2012 at 3:22 pm
10 questions for your pastor - by LiakosVikernes - October 1, 2012 at 4:51 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Angrboda - October 2, 2012 at 4:15 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2012 at 11:31 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2012 at 12:41 pm
10 questions for your pastor - by LiakosVikernes - October 3, 2012 at 3:45 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 3, 2012 at 11:50 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 4, 2012 at 3:27 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 4, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 4, 2012 at 12:22 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by pocaracas - October 3, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Minimalist - October 4, 2012 at 12:58 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Minimalist - October 4, 2012 at 11:53 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 4, 2012 at 4:18 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 4, 2012 at 9:27 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Minimalist - October 4, 2012 at 9:25 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by ronedee - October 8, 2012 at 1:36 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by pocaracas - October 8, 2012 at 6:01 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by KichigaiNeko - October 8, 2012 at 6:05 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 9:48 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by ronedee - October 8, 2012 at 4:02 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by frankiej - October 8, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Minimalist - October 8, 2012 at 4:34 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by ronedee - October 9, 2012 at 12:14 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 9, 2012 at 12:28 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 9, 2012 at 12:35 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by ronedee - October 9, 2012 at 1:34 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 9, 2012 at 2:06 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by ronedee - October 9, 2012 at 10:49 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 10, 2012 at 12:23 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 10, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Godschild - October 10, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 10, 2012 at 4:06 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Minimalist - October 9, 2012 at 12:36 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Minimalist - October 9, 2012 at 2:13 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by FallentoReason - October 9, 2012 at 2:29 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Minimalist - October 9, 2012 at 10:55 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by ronedee - October 9, 2012 at 11:50 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Faith No More - October 9, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by ronedee - October 9, 2012 at 10:21 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 9, 2012 at 10:42 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 9, 2012 at 6:34 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by The Grand Nudger - October 9, 2012 at 11:38 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by popeyespappy - October 10, 2012 at 12:07 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by ronedee - October 12, 2012 at 2:29 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Faith No More - October 10, 2012 at 8:15 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by The Grand Nudger - October 10, 2012 at 8:56 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by The Grand Nudger - October 10, 2012 at 10:40 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Faith No More - October 12, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by ronedee - October 12, 2012 at 8:00 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 12, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by ronedee - October 13, 2012 at 12:14 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by Darkstar - October 13, 2012 at 12:27 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by ronedee - October 13, 2012 at 12:32 am
RE: 10 questions for your pastor - by The Grand Nudger - October 14, 2012 at 2:01 pm

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