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Question to Christians re humility
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RE: Question to Christians re humility
(October 5, 2012 at 7:05 pm)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote:
(October 1, 2012 at 2:32 am)Doubting_Thomas Wrote: The slave to god thing is another oddity in my book. If we are mere slaves, why do we have free will.

Not all Protestants believe that you do have free will. I don't think you do.

Free will seems to me to be more of an illusion than a reality.

Though it's likely equally as implausible that there is a someone, somewhere, who has the free will we cannot have, and long ago decided that we were going to have that extra slice of cheesecake.

There's a double movement here, we examine the plausible mechanisms based on cause and effect, and rule that free will not only does not, but indeed cannot exist in a world that makes sense. But then they postulate a god who transcends such mundane impossibilities. Where? In a world where effect doesn't follow cause, and sense does not make sense? Would you really want to follow a god whose ways, ultimately, cannot be sensible, rational, and determinable?


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Question to Christians re humility - by Doubting_Thomas - September 30, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darwinian - September 30, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - September 30, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by MysticKnight - September 30, 2012 at 7:00 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 30, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - September 30, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 11:19 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 30, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 12:14 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Zen Badger - October 1, 2012 at 6:11 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Minimalist - October 1, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by downbeatplumb - October 1, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Polaris - September 30, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Reforged - October 1, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Polaris - October 1, 2012 at 8:27 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Annik - September 30, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Angrboda - September 30, 2012 at 11:44 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 12:41 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 2:05 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Angrboda - October 5, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by genkaus - October 6, 2012 at 1:27 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Kayenneh - October 1, 2012 at 8:04 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Justtristo - October 1, 2012 at 8:21 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 12:01 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by genkaus - October 5, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 5, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Reforged - October 6, 2012 at 12:08 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 3:22 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 8, 2012 at 12:11 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by genkaus - October 8, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 1:58 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Whateverist - October 6, 2012 at 2:19 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 8, 2012 at 12:28 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 11:49 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 8, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by downbeatplumb - October 8, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 8, 2012 at 4:28 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 4:51 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by pocaracas - October 8, 2012 at 7:02 pm

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