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Question to Christians re humility
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RE: Question to Christians re humility
(October 6, 2012 at 12:08 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: It has nothing to do with evidence or reason. You can be the most polite, intelligent and charismatic person in the world but if you try telling them that probably isn't going to happen and theres no reason to think it does then they tend to get slightly pissed off. They call it arrogance.
It is arrogance in the sense of epistemology. Atheists have faith in a doctrine called Empiricism--that whatever they don't perceive directly with their senses does not exist, end of discussion. I confess it's not easy to believe with secondhand evidence and reason, but how else are we to know about the non-natural realm? Atheists claim they know God doesn't exist. Agnostics claim they know they can't know whether God exists. Christians believe that, if there, God would reach through the barrier of nature to contact them. Part of this is accomplished through the Bible, part through the Holy Spirit, and additionally via introspection (by which the created can learn about the image of their creator). You demand physical proof of a non-physical being. If your starting point is rooted in naturalism, there's nothing I can do to convince you. Atheists like to remain closed until pried open. Christians remain open until slammed shut. Don't wait to be convinced by the most undeniable evidence in the universe. Open your eyes and... let yourself be vulnerable. My God is the God of the heart, and he can't meet you until you meet Him.
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Question to Christians re humility - by Doubting_Thomas - September 30, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darwinian - September 30, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - September 30, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by MysticKnight - September 30, 2012 at 7:00 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 30, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - September 30, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 11:19 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 30, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 12:14 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Zen Badger - October 1, 2012 at 6:11 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Minimalist - October 1, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by downbeatplumb - October 1, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Polaris - September 30, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Reforged - October 1, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Polaris - October 1, 2012 at 8:27 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Annik - September 30, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Angrboda - September 30, 2012 at 11:44 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 12:41 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 2:05 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Angrboda - October 5, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by genkaus - October 6, 2012 at 1:27 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Kayenneh - October 1, 2012 at 8:04 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Justtristo - October 1, 2012 at 8:21 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 12:01 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by genkaus - October 5, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 5, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Reforged - October 6, 2012 at 12:08 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 3:22 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 8, 2012 at 12:11 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by genkaus - October 8, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 1:58 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Whateverist - October 6, 2012 at 2:19 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 8, 2012 at 12:28 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 11:49 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 8, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by downbeatplumb - October 8, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 8, 2012 at 4:28 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 4:51 pm
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