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God does not follow the first principle of morality. Why not?
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RE: God does not follow the first principle of morality. Why not?



This is a dead point if you keep saying "god is so awesome that we must be the evil ones" without actually considering things objectively. He is called the jealous god. Is jealousy good?





I strongly deny this. If we threw down the seeds of life on some far off world and claimed ownsership of the populace once they reached sentiency, it would be unjust. God did not create me, my mother did.

Drich Wrote:
Quote:What I wonder is, where does God's righteousness come from? Himself?
Yes.

God is self-righteous, but he gets a pass for everything...

Drich Wrote:
Quote: Does that mean his will is completely arbitrary?
As in God's will is righteousness.. Yes.

God's arbitrary will is inherently righteous because he says so...I don't buy it.




Clap So, it finally comes out. God isn't just, he is 'righteous'. 'Righteous' simply means god's will. If you submit to god's will, regardless of its morality, you go to heaven. If you stand up for what is right and refuse, you burn forever. Of course, it could be one big conspiracy with god testing us to see who stands up for what is right and who doesn't...can't prove otherwise (it wouldn't be in the bible if it were true...).

Drich Wrote:
Quote: Is it because he is more powerful than we are?
Yuup!
God's creation. God's rules, and there is nothing you can do about it..

Further evidence god is just a whiny brat who does whatever he feels like and doesn't care if it's wrong.




If we were all basically good people, then why are there laws? Teaching us we're all basically bad people not only would have negative emotional effects, but it might cause people to think they can do bad things without being judged.

Drich Wrote:
Quote:You tell yourself God is good because you're too terrified of the monster to say otherwise.
God is Good for no other reason than He defines what 'Good' is.

Clap You just keep proving my points.

Reminds me of this video:



Drich Wrote:
Quote: I know that spinning God as ultimate good and loving everybody makes it easier to sell the bullshit, but I'd honestly have more respect for his followers if they were honest and admitted that God is neither good, nor perfect, and that their 'personal' relationship is one of existential terror.
Fortunately we do not need the respect of those who wish to compermise our faith in order to award us with 'peer approval.'

Fortunately we [atheists] do not need the respect of those who wish to compromise our faith reason in order to award us with 'peer approval.'
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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RE: God does not follow the first principle of morality. Why not? - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 9:00 pm

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