Hello all !
After reading the lively banter back and forth I now know how a thread could be 4 years old and neither side satisfied with "any" answer! LOL!
The simple answer? (If possible)... is that God had to break his own curse against man.
Believing that God exists is based mostly (and obviously) on Faith! All others need logic (or a weapon like in the old days! LOL). And.... it "will" make more sense once you sort all the facts out!
First...a modest blurp about me! I am (gulp!) Catholic which will put me at odds with not only the A's, but most Christian groups! Why i am, is not important to anyone but me so I won't bother. I was away from my faith for several years, and came back through an unusual experience that again only means something to me!
My brother and father became Atheist's. So I've had many, MANY argu....eh..... I mean discussions about religion over the decades! And over the years I feel a bit responsible for a few conversions through logic and (more importantly) my Faith. Not so many "A's to Christ"...but at least to Agnostic! Which was monumental in a few instances. I point to my dad, kid brother, and my best friend who is now a Christian!
I'm NOT expecting to turn this place on fire (pardon the expression), nor convert anyone! Just to throw out a few ideas, interesting facts and observations for debate and conversations!
It's kind of late in my neck 'o the woods so I'll be back to layout the/my "logical" reasoning tomorrow...."if" anyone is interested! Viewing some of the posts here, I'm sure there are a few/thousand who could give a rats ass...but I'm sure it will be great fodder/target practice for dem-dare A's!
SYS! Ron
After reading the lively banter back and forth I now know how a thread could be 4 years old and neither side satisfied with "any" answer! LOL!
The simple answer? (If possible)... is that God had to break his own curse against man.
Believing that God exists is based mostly (and obviously) on Faith! All others need logic (or a weapon like in the old days! LOL). And.... it "will" make more sense once you sort all the facts out!
First...a modest blurp about me! I am (gulp!) Catholic which will put me at odds with not only the A's, but most Christian groups! Why i am, is not important to anyone but me so I won't bother. I was away from my faith for several years, and came back through an unusual experience that again only means something to me!
My brother and father became Atheist's. So I've had many, MANY argu....eh..... I mean discussions about religion over the decades! And over the years I feel a bit responsible for a few conversions through logic and (more importantly) my Faith. Not so many "A's to Christ"...but at least to Agnostic! Which was monumental in a few instances. I point to my dad, kid brother, and my best friend who is now a Christian!
I'm NOT expecting to turn this place on fire (pardon the expression), nor convert anyone! Just to throw out a few ideas, interesting facts and observations for debate and conversations!
It's kind of late in my neck 'o the woods so I'll be back to layout the/my "logical" reasoning tomorrow...."if" anyone is interested! Viewing some of the posts here, I'm sure there are a few/thousand who could give a rats ass...but I'm sure it will be great fodder/target practice for dem-dare A's!
SYS! Ron