Question to Christians re humility

[Undeceived]

Who said anything about that, last I checked the law of causation didn't have a "power outside our natural system to serve as the catalyst for the universe" clause. Try again.

Why don't we go a step further and say, if we assume that it is a god, and that the law of causation does mean this, then what caused god?

According to our observations, all actions/transfers of energy have a cause. By deduction, the first atoms did too. Since they are the first pieces of material in our universe, the cause must be outside the universe. Where else would you get a cause for the first atoms? God, on the other hand, does not need to be caused because he is outside of our universe and laws--He is not bound to the law of causation. You could hypothesize a physical universe outside our universe, but that would need a cause too, and we enter infinite regress. The objective is to keep going back until you reach an entity who/which doesn't have to be caused. Christians call this entity "God". He is by definition causeless. Once we've established this unchanging, timeless (otherwise he'd be caused) entity, we can take the reasoning a step further. We could dismiss He/It as something we've never imagined, but philosophy loves answers. We have to continue and say that since no physical objects existed, the cause of the universe must either be numbers or an intellectual mind. Numbers cannot create—they can only guide--so that leaves an intellectual 'mind'. Define that as you will. Now, being uncaused, this mind has to choose to put the universe into existence. This is because there is no endless flow of energy running through Him/It. A changeless entity can only create change if it decides to. And therefore, assuming you actually want answers, we come up with a God being.