God does not follow the first principle of morality. Why not?

[Darkstar]

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We've strayed from the point, honestly. I don't really have to prove he is omnibenevolent,

Yes you do you if you whole arguement is that God is malevolent. Because if there isn't a biblical promise that God is supposed to love and care for everyone like you thought/think He is supposed to then lableing God malevolent is meaningless. Do you honestly not see that? or Do you believe your own hype, and really think I failed to defend my thread on this topic the first time around? Your precious paradox fails if there is not a declaration of omni benevolence here. Again are you ignorant here or just obstinate?[/quote]

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So god is malevolent, you just think this is unimportant.

but I can prove he is malevolent when you look at all the suffering in the world.

So what? God put us in Charge of this realm this world at the fall of Man. If there is suffering it is because We/YOU allow it!

So god does not interact with the world in any way? Should be a deist, then. If he does interfere, then we aren't totally in charge of this realm and he doen't have an excuse. Also, define 'allow'. Do we 'allow' cancer to kill children, or natural disasters and other diseases to kill people? Isn't god responsible for diesease (if he created all life on earth)? If so, his non-interference is only via a loophole.

How can you justify this suffering with the "They have chosen not to accept Jesus" when some have never heard that name uttered before?

Seriously? How can you say you hate God if you truly know nothing of Him?

How can you say you love god if you truly know nothing of him?

Christians are Called to suffer.

God is a sadist.

Meaning If you are a Christian expect to suffer in this life.

Because non-christians don't suffer? God must be doing some extra evil for that to have meaning.

If His own Son was not spared suffering from this world then why would we expect not to suffer? Furthermore why would someone who does not know Christ be in a better position to not suffer?

1. God predestined that, it isn't really our fault.
2. Maybe they wouldn't...but that was my above point.

We do not trade worship for a better life. That is what I was talking about earilier when I mentioned a prosperity doctrine, and how Christianity is moving away from the bible.

Good thing too; it's illegal to stone people for working on the sabbath.

So let me make sure I understand your arguement. you quoting that creed, Doesn't really mean God is omni benevolent as it has nothing to do with the bible. It just means that the Vatican believes that God is omni Benevolent... Even though the bible say nothing of the sort. Is that your arguement in a nut shell?

Actually, you are right in saying that god isn't omnibenevolent. A lot of people have that idea, but it isn't mentioned in the bible. People sometimes believe things that aren't in the bible, but it is more common that they don't believe something that is in the bible. Do you think that blaspheming the holy spirit will really earn you a one-way ticket to eternal torture, even if the rest of your life is spent in servitude?
Mark 3:28-29

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Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.

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