RE: God does not follow the first principle of morality. Why not?
October 11, 2012 at 10:27 pm
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2012 at 10:32 pm by System of Solace.)
Quote:If God does not Change, then How is it He can condone these acts in one book/instance and condemn them the next? Unless! The acts themselves have no interinsically moral value at all. They are simply good or bad when God says they are good or bad. Meaning that the only time raping and murdering is bad is when we do it on our own/without a command from God. And are acceptable when He says they are. Again as it is we in this age as Christians nor Jews have any commands to rape murder or anything else on your list. Meaning all instances of the sins you mentioned can be rightfully judged as sin.
How were they justified in the past?
And what if these commands have been personal, as so many claim? How do you answer to the hundreds that claim they killed for God?
Quote:Ah no. As I have pointed out many many times in the soceity/times the bible was written it was very counter culture in every aspect. (Do you really need examples and explainations?) "We" believers have always been persecuted for being outside of the culture in what we believe.







Quote:Yes you do you if you whole arguement is that God is malevolent. Because if there isn't a biblical promise that God is supposed to love and care for everyone like you thought/think He is supposed to then lableing God malevolent is meaningless. Do you honestly not see that? or Do you believe your own hype, and really think I failed to defend my thread on this topic the first time around? Your precious paradox fails if there is not a declaration of omni benevolence here. Again are you ignorant here or just obstinate?
You brought omnibenevolence into this debate. It is not omnibenevolence, but simply benevolence. Do you realize your problem here? If you are right and he is not benevolent (you aren't) then he is simply a total asshole.
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So what? God put us in Charge of this realm this world at the fall of Man. If there is suffering it is because We/YOU allow it!
Then he's malevolent, and does not care about the suffering of mankind.
And why did man fall, anyways? Because God isn't a good enough designer?
Quote:Seriously? How can you say you hate God if you truly know nothing of Him?
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African child dying of AIDS. Probably never heard of Jesus. If you seriously didn't understand what I said.....well, we won't go there.
Quote:So let me make sure I understand your arguement. you quoting that creed, Doesn't really mean God is omni benevolent as it has nothing to do with the bible. It just means that the Vatican believes that God is omni Benevolent... Even though the bible say nothing of the sort. Is that your arguement in a nut shell?
No. I'm just saying that the biggest religious power in the world right now thinks differently than you.
By the way
1 John 4:8 "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love."
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The true beauty of a self-inquiring sentient universe is lost on those who elect to walk the intellectually vacuous path of comfortable paranoid fantasies.