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What are the best Atheistic Arguments?
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RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments?
(September 23, 2009 at 4:57 pm)ecolox Wrote: If the universe doesn't need an explanation, then why does anything need an explanation? - That IS a really good one.

Well basically I mean that, if the universe has an explanation, then whatever explains the universe needs one, and so on..infinite regress.

So either there's an infinity of a line of explanations, or something always existed right from the beginning. Something simple enough to not need such a big explanation right from the outset. Something ultimately simple.

If the universe does need an explanation, then God, by the same logic, does too. And God is much more complex than a big bang singularity, because of what he is capable of can't just be "just there" without an explanation. Just as it wouldn't make sense that something as sophisticated as the human brain could be there without an explanation. And God is more sophisticated than that.

And if God doesn't need an explanation, then by the same logic the universe doesn't, the universe (or the big bang singularity or whatever sparked off the universe, that was simple, and not "God") could have just been there from the start, and God is a much more complex and improbable alternative. As I said, he's much more sophisticated than the human brain, and the human brain certainly just doesn't come out of no where! That would be ridiculously improbable, miraculous to say the least, and God would be an even bigger miracle, and even more improbable than that.

God is the ultimate miracle. Or rather, he would be, if he existed. He almost certainly doesn't:If he did, that would be miraculous.

EvF
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What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by littlegrimlin1 - September 22, 2009 at 9:15 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 22, 2009 at 10:10 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Retorth - September 23, 2009 at 12:28 am
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 23, 2009 at 12:43 am
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Retorth - September 23, 2009 at 1:03 am
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Edwardo Piet - September 23, 2009 at 11:02 am
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by littlegrimlin1 - September 23, 2009 at 4:37 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by ecolox - September 23, 2009 at 4:57 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Edwardo Piet - September 24, 2009 at 5:13 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Eilonnwy - September 23, 2009 at 2:37 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 23, 2009 at 5:06 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by ecolox - September 23, 2009 at 5:18 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by padraic - September 23, 2009 at 8:12 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 23, 2009 at 5:12 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 23, 2009 at 5:52 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by ecolox - September 23, 2009 at 6:11 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 23, 2009 at 6:08 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 23, 2009 at 6:16 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 23, 2009 at 6:35 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 23, 2009 at 7:01 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by ecolox - September 23, 2009 at 8:21 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by littlegrimlin1 - September 23, 2009 at 6:50 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by ecolox - September 23, 2009 at 7:42 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 23, 2009 at 7:04 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 23, 2009 at 7:08 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 23, 2009 at 7:16 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by littlegrimlin1 - September 23, 2009 at 11:19 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by theblindferrengi - September 23, 2009 at 11:55 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Retorth - September 24, 2009 at 12:28 am
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 24, 2009 at 4:12 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by amw79 - September 24, 2009 at 4:46 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 24, 2009 at 5:56 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Eilonnwy - September 24, 2009 at 6:04 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by amw79 - September 25, 2009 at 4:05 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Edwardo Piet - September 24, 2009 at 6:15 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 24, 2009 at 6:45 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Edwardo Piet - September 24, 2009 at 7:08 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Eilonnwy - September 24, 2009 at 7:36 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 25, 2009 at 2:13 am
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Eilonnwy - September 25, 2009 at 9:57 am
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Edwardo Piet - September 25, 2009 at 4:45 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Edwardo Piet - September 24, 2009 at 7:52 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by littlegrimlin1 - September 24, 2009 at 9:39 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 25, 2009 at 6:13 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Eilonnwy - September 26, 2009 at 12:43 am
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 26, 2009 at 5:38 am
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Edwardo Piet - September 26, 2009 at 8:10 am
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by amw79 - September 26, 2009 at 10:14 am
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by littlegrimlin1 - September 26, 2009 at 11:38 am
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 26, 2009 at 4:33 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by amw79 - September 26, 2009 at 7:05 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 26, 2009 at 7:18 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by amw79 - September 26, 2009 at 7:42 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Edwardo Piet - September 26, 2009 at 7:40 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 27, 2009 at 3:19 am
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Edwardo Piet - September 27, 2009 at 6:17 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by fr0d0 - September 27, 2009 at 7:01 pm
RE: What are the best Atheistic Arguments? - by Edwardo Piet - September 27, 2009 at 7:31 pm

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