Failed Biblical Prophecies

[Godscreated]

[quote='Drich' pid='350914' dateline='1350593026']

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The jubusites and the hitites were essentially the same people (just a different region.) The hitites were destroyed completely. The Jubusites were conquored, just not wiped from exsistance. Just like when Rome occupied Jureslem during the time of Christ. The Jews were a conqured people even though they still occupied the land. In the case of the Jubusites the Jews occupied their former lands. making the tribes of juda and benjamin the conquors, and the Jubusites the conquored.

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Le sigh. Let's look at what was actually written, shall we?

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Joshua 3:7-10 And the Lord said to Joshua, “Today I will begin to exalt you in the eyes of all Israel, so they may know that I am with you as I was with Moses. 8 Tell the priests who carry the ark of the covenant: ‘When you reach the edge of the Jordan’s waters, go and stand in the river.’”

9 Joshua said to the Israelites, “Come here and listen to the words of the Lord your God. 10 This is how you will know that the living God is among you and that he will certainly drive out before you the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites.

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Note the bolded. They were not to simply be conquered, but driven out. That means if they still occupied the land, this would be untrue.

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Joshua 15:63 Judah could not dislodge the Jebusites, who were living in Jerusalem; to this day the Jebusites live there with the people of Judah.

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Lo and behold, they weren't driven out.

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Just because "God is with someone" does not mean they use what is avaiable to them. Look at yourself. You have the same oppertunity to tap into God's resources as I do, and you have chosen not to. Does that mean God so loved me that He gave his only begotten Son, that if I believe I should not persih, and disregaurd you??? No of course not! You do not have access to God because you do not have faith in God even though God has faith enough in you to John 3:16

People do this all the time. We have access to God but do not take advantage of what has been offered. Can God be stopped by 'iron charriots?" No of course not. but the Judeans who fought this battle most certaintly could if they did not have faith in God. They like you simply saw the 'proof' of the opposition and followed the evidence off of the battle field. Then blamed God for their 'faith.'

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"Just because "God is with someone" does not mean they use what is avaiable to them." Really? Let's again look at the actual text.

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"This is how you will know that the living God is among you and that he will certainly drive out before you the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites."

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Here god says he will certainly drive all of those people out to show that he is with him. Judah need not 'use' god, god had already said he would do it of his own accord.

You are a dishonest cherry picker who does not understand anything about scripture, you need to quit being a pretender, it makes you look foolish.

The verses you quoted are only a few of a series of verses about an event that has nothing to do with conquering those nations named, and in those verses you used you sealed your fate as to looking foolish.

1) The event was about crossing a raging river, each year the Jordan River floods and runs as a torrent. Go look up your geography, I'm not doing this simple task for you, it is you who's responsible for your facts.

2) Joshua tells the people that God is going to stop the flow of this raging river so that they can crossover to the land of promise.

3) God explained what He was going to do with the river to Joshua, and this event is the one that will establish God is still with His people and their leader.

4) God did as He said, He blocked the flow of the river when the priest carrying the ark stepped into the river. All the people crossed over, it was only when the priest came out of the river bed that the river returned to it's flood stage.

5) God did not tell Joshua in these verses that He would dispossess these other peoples, it was Joshua that said this is what God will do.

6) Joshua was getting ahead of God, as many do, and embellished what God was going to do, why Joshua did this is not explained, it is though written down that he did so. Did Joshua know that God was going to aid His people in dispossessing these people, yes, that is another matter altogether, it has no bearing on this part of the journey. The only thing that's important here, is that God did exactly what He said he would, to show His people that He was with their leadership and them.

7) You should try at least to be more accurate in your reporting of events, especially since it was already written for you, you make one lousy reporter of the facts even when they stare you in the face.

8) Now we have taken a look at what the verses really say!!