It's amazing how much Christians will stretch prophecy to make it "true."

Quote:You will be sought, but you will never again be found, declares the Sovereign LORD

Whoops, drippy. THERE it is. I found it...and so will anyone who fucking bothers looking.

Get your head out of your ass, son. You may pull this shit with other fundie morons but you will not get away with it here.

(October 18, 2012 at 2:53 pm)Drich Wrote: Look at your picture a little more closly minnie. To me it seems like God's word is being proved here. For in the Foreground we see the ruins of the 'city' in which Ezekial spoke. It remains desolate. God did not curse the ground of tyre where no one could ever dewell on the grounds ever again (like He did with Eden or Sodom and Gormorrah.) He cursed the actual city and the people who lived there. Again it looks to me by your own pic that no one of that time is left alive nor is their anyone living in the orginal city ezk spoke of. So what part of the phophesy tickles your fancy so?

Seriously? You don't really think that the ruins you see in the foreground were the entire city of ancient Tyre?

Modern Tyre was built over much of the ruins of ancient Tyre. So still the prophecy fails.

Darkstar, the problem is you and Min are reading the Bible with your sinful eyes.

You need to read the Bible as Drich does, with the Holy Spirit. You can read a lot more that way (or less, depending on what's needed).

Now, you may be saying, "but Yah-way, I see no reason to believe in the Holy Spirit". That's because you're looking for it only with those five senses. You have to look for it with the Holy Spirit.

(October 18, 2012 at 7:39 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: Now, you may be saying, "but Yah-way, I see no reason to believe in the Holy Spirit".

Yah-way? Thus prompting this:

(October 18, 2012 at 7:39 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: Darkstar, the problem is you and Min are reading the Bible with your sinful eyes.

You need to read the Bible as Drich does, with the Holy Spirit. You can read a lot more that way (or less, depending on what's needed).

Now, you may be saying, "but Yah-way, I see no reason to believe in the Holy Spirit". That's because you're looking for it only with those five senses. You have to look for it with the Holy Spirit.

You need to listen to Johnny Cash read it.

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Quote:Darkstar, the problem is you and Min are reading the Bible with your sinful eyes.

Fuck the fucking bible, Yourway. I'm looking at a fucking photo of modern fucking Tyre after his fucking god said no one would ever fucking find it again and I fucking found it.

Fuck, exekiel and the rest of those phony con men.

Quote:The present-day city of Tyre covers a large part of the original island and has expanded onto and covers most of the causeway, which had increased greatly in width over the centuries because of extensive silt depositions on either side. The part of the original island that is not covered by the modern city of Tyre consists mostly of an archaeological site showcasing remains of the city from ancient times.

Wiki.


I mean we can argue about a lot of things but the FUCKING CITY IS STILL THERE. At some point Drippy is going to have to face FACTS and understand that his fucking bible is fucking bullshit!

(October 18, 2012 at 6:52 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Note the bolded. They were not to simply be conquered, but driven out. That means if they still occupied the land, this would be untrue.

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Joshua 15:63 Judah could not dislodge the Jebusites, who were living in Jerusalem; to this day the Jebusites live there with the people of Judah.

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Lo and behold, they weren't driven out.

Oh I see what you mean! I guess your right they weren't driven out! Holy Smokes Your right!!!

Oh wait, "drive out" is a modern english idom,(http://www.thefreedictionary.com/drive+out) and the this part of the bible that you quoted was written 3500 years or so ago... So does that mean the term 'drive out.' has the same meaning as you understand it now?
Lets go back to the Hebrew and see what word "Drive out was translated from. The Hebrew word is: (ירש yarash) it means in this context:1) to seize, dispossess, take possession off, inherit, disinherit, occupy, impoverish, be an heir

Oh, there is that word I used to describe what the tribe of Juda and benjamin were doing to the land and of the people. They "occupied" the land of the broken Jebsuites.

So scripturally, God delivered upon his promise, and your modern interpertation of the term 'drive out' was misapplied to this passage.

Quote:"Just because "God is with someone" does not mean they use what is avaiable to them." Really? Let's again look at the actual text.

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"This is how you will know that the living God is among you and that he will certainly drive out before you the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites."

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Here god says he will certainly drive all of those people out to show that he is with him. Judah need not 'use' god, god had already said he would do it of his own accord.

God did drive these people out as we have already established. Even though the tribe of Judea was beaten by iron charriots.

Quote:It's an ancient city, of course it is going to crumble eventually. The new city was built over the ancient ruins of the old one. Tell me, how many ancient cities still exist in their original states, and how many of those that do not would you say were permanantly destroyed by god. Note "never found again". Uh, it's right there.

So you've never heard of Rome, Damascus, Jericho, or Jersulem? These people seem to be able to not only use the same land but still use and maintain some of the same structures. While the orginal city of tyer was abandoned and a new civilization was built next to it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/15...re_Lebanon
Just because the people who live there refer to their new dewelling as tyer does not mean it was the tyer of the bible. They wisly built next to (not on top of) what God destroyed.

Quote:Where were Sodom and Gomorrah anyway? Likewise, what reason do you have to believe that god cursed them when virtually every ancient culture disappeared long ago?

What are you talking about? If every ancient culture disappeared then where did we come from?