Ok, I know I said I was done but I had to kick him one last time.
Him:
Me:
Him [clearly not understanding the dismissive tone of my message]:
See...Never...ever...EVER accuse me of not answering something when I was never asked something. It'll piss me off. Somehow I retained my calm, however...something I am quite proud of, in fact.
My response:
That last part was perhaps a bit of a personal dig at him and his beliefs but honestly his ignorance and his arrogance piqued my ire. That I controlled it that well is a step in the right direction for me.
Now, if I can just manage total restraint. One step at a time...
Him:
Quote:Who created the creator? When you ask this question you are implying that I believe in a created God. Which you now understand I don't. Also, When you asked this question you're trying to figure out God. If you could figure out God, there be no point for God, now what there?
Don't worry, I'm not Going to argue that. But basically, I have an answer to my question yet your question still remains unanswerable. Yet you still believe in this. So you believe in something you can answer, That means you have faith in the subject. If you don't have faith in the subject, that means that there is a flaw in your Theory. Which ridicules it to Harassment, but don't worry, I'm not going to attack you like that either.
Me:
Quote:Actually you haven't given any answers, and in fact you've ducked my rebuttals. Vagueries, circular logic, and now a strawman in the form of faith being necessary when it is anything but. I cannot say I am surprised, since I cannot hope to having any kind of reasonable debate with someone who argues in favor of something that is neither provable nor disprovable and who also considers that a crux of understanding when it is nothing more than a tool of ignorance.
Maybe, just maybe, one day, you will begin to understand why, as civilization, technology, and learning has progressed, the strength and conviction of faith has fallen, while the dissemination of knowledge has risen up to take its place.
But I won't hold my breath.
Him [clearly not understanding the dismissive tone of my message]:
Quote:Great answer to the question. Ik you would never admit that you were wrong.
See...Never...ever...EVER accuse me of not answering something when I was never asked something. It'll piss me off. Somehow I retained my calm, however...something I am quite proud of, in fact.
My response:
Quote:What question? You never posed a question in your last message, unless of course you are referring to your question on evolution, in which case, I already answered it: With a petri dish, a culture of cellular matter, and a microscope. I did it in high school, for fuck's sake. Or do you refer to abiogenesis, in which inorganic matter becomes organic matter, from whence all life ultimately originates? Well, first of all, that has nothing to do with evolution, since abiogenesis explains the creation of life and evolutionary theory explains how it changes once it has started. Dr. Jack Szostak has already proven that it can happen and he has demonstrated as such in a controlled environment based upon the Miller-Urey Experiment, thus proving the concept of organic matter [life] coming from inorganic matter [not life] as more than possible: it actually can happen.
This is in direct contrast to your bland "goddidit." The evidence and the findings and the proof all rest with my side. Your side has nothing, explains nothing, provides nothing. That is why it is dying a slow, miserable, prolonged death, why atheism is rising and church-attendance is dropping all across the educated, developed world. You and your kind can live in the dark if you'd like it, of course; this is the US, you are free to your opinion. Just don't expect anyone with any eye for fact and reason to actually ever take you seriously, is all.
That last part was perhaps a bit of a personal dig at him and his beliefs but honestly his ignorance and his arrogance piqued my ire. That I controlled it that well is a step in the right direction for me.
Now, if I can just manage total restraint. One step at a time...