(October 19, 2012 at 2:07 pm)apophenia Wrote: I have one last question for akincana.
If God created the universe out of nothing, who created God out of nothing?
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Nothing. God just exists because he is necessarily necessary. The universe, however, despite being infinitely less amazing than God's glory, cannot. The universe is dumb nature, how can it create itself? God doesn't need a beginning, He exists outside of space and time and doesn't follow the rule of cause and effect! God made the whole universe and you can't understand His glory, so why do you even bother? Everything must have a cause, so the universe does too. Something can't come from nothing so God must have created it.
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Notice how he contradicts himself, and provides no reasoning as to why god can 'just exist' when the universe cannot, not to mention that if something can't come from nothing, how could god have created something from nothing? Therefore there must be exceptions to the rule either way, unless the singularity was effectively eternal prior to the big bang, or at least the matter that composed it. Now let's see how the actual response compares with my poe.
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