RE: FL paper that backed Obama in '08 switches to Romney...
October 19, 2012 at 6:54 pm
(This post was last modified: October 19, 2012 at 7:02 pm by Tino.)
(October 19, 2012 at 5:20 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote: I didn't know it was possible to be an atheist, yet not liberal.
Yes it is. We free thinkers don't all need to think in lockstep. If you want to discuss it more, let me know.
(October 19, 2012 at 5:16 pm)festive1 Wrote: It's alright to notify the general public about the penalties associated with any crime. However, these signs are going up in predominately Latino and African American communities. Why not put them up everywhere?
Why did Willy Sutton rob banks?
(October 19, 2012 at 5:16 pm)festive1 Wrote: I don't think you'd defend the Jim Crow-era southerners who stood around polling stations to intimidate African American voters. So why defend a group like this? One's stated mission does not always match the effect that a group may have. These people are trained to walk the fine line of legally intimidating people.
I don't defend them, but I also don't condemn them without knowing more about what they're really doing.
(October 19, 2012 at 5:16 pm)festive1 Wrote: I'm not going back to the 1960's. This is today.
As for the illegal 2008 absentee ballots, those people should have been and have been convicted of crimes. They are serving their time, good. I will point out that casting illegal ballots is a very different thing to voter intimidation and actively trying to get the other side to not vote, even if these two means result in the same end.
The point is that skewing the vote in your favor, whether by fraud, intimidation, ballot stuffing or whatever the tactic, has been going on for a long time by both parties. You haven't given me any reason to thing that it's suddenly only being practiced by one side.
(October 19, 2012 at 5:16 pm)festive1 Wrote: You still haven't presented any evidence of current, 2012, democratic voter intimidation and/or fraud. All my citations have been in the past few months.
No and as I said I'm not going to go look for accusations, as they're too easy to make.
(October 19, 2012 at 5:16 pm)festive1 Wrote: In Pennsylvania where the voter ID law was put on hold for the 2012 election, they are putting up signs in heavily minority areas, in Spanish, saying you have to have an ID to vote.... That's pretty low.
We're so far apart here dear. I think people should have to show an ID to vote. I can't think of any responsible way otherwise to keep people from voting illegally. If illegal voting didn't favor one party so heavily (Democrats) this wouldn't be an issue at all.
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