(October 23, 2012 at 4:01 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There is the following arguments for religion that I've made after being a Deist, that put's deism on the defense.
Assume for all these arguments that 1) God exists 2) Is ultimately great hence benevolent, loving, graceful, etc.
Even with these faulty premises, the arguments you make are not valid.
(October 23, 2012 at 4:01 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Argument from organization:
1) Society needs organization.
2) The best organization would come from God.
3) God being benevolent wants the best organization for society.
4) Therefore there is a religion that has the best organization for society.
Except, as we have seen, currently the best "organization" in teh society does not stem from any religion but from the principles of secularism.
(October 23, 2012 at 4:01 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Argument from clarification of (objective) morality.
1) Humanity although believes in (objective) morality, disagrees and is confused about much of it, and is following subjective morality that is wrong in many cases.
2) God wants humanity to have a way to recognize objective morality in a clear fashion.
3) Therefore there is a religion that proves itself and has clear moral detailed guidance.
Except
a) If that morality is dependent on god then its not objective morality and
b) If any morality is to be found to be objective, then then it must be found so by reasoned discourse - not divine command. Ethics is the domain of philosophy, not religion.
(October 23, 2012 at 4:01 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Argument from relationship:
1) The more a sentient being loves someone, the more it is inclined to communicate to them in a relationship.
2) God's love towards humanity is higher then love then which all (other) sentient beings have when they are inclined to communicate to one in a relationship.
3) Therefore God would communicate to humanity and establish a relationship.
Except, the existence of so many religions would mean that he is extremely poor at communicating.