RE: How did the writings of the NT come to be?
October 23, 2012 at 4:54 pm
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2012 at 4:56 pm by Minimalist.)
[url] http://carrington-arts.com/cliff/Nero.htm [/url]
The passage referred to c 400 AD is here:
http://www.ewtn.com/library/PATRISTC/PII11-5.TXT
Note that in Severus' version there is no reference to Pilate or Christ or Tiberius. Moreover, Severus does not even make a reference to Tacitus as his source which one would expect since Tacitus was known as a famous historian.
Even more oddly, Tacitus, Suetonius and Pliny were all contemporaries, living in the early second century. Both Suetonius and Pliny describe xtianity as mere "superstition." How odd that Tacitus writing at the same time would have had this far more advanced doctrine included in his work. Of course, when modern xtians seek facile answers to support their remaining superstitions they never question anything. I expect you will shove your head more firmly up your ass and insist that Tacitus wrote this passage exactly as you see it and that all the other Greco-Roman and xtian writers ignored it for reasons which I am sure you will invent.
That's what apologists do.
For normal people this shit looks more and more like a medieval forgery.
Quote: According to Tacitus, alone, Nero blamed the Christians for the fire in Rome. Annals, XV. This passage is not referred to in any other pagan, nor Christian writings until 400 CE.
The passage referred to c 400 AD is here:
http://www.ewtn.com/library/PATRISTC/PII11-5.TXT
Quote: CHAPTER XXIX.
Is the meantime, the number of the Christians being now very large, it happened that Rome was destroyed by fire, while Nero was stationed at Antium. But the opinion of all cast the odium of causing the fire upon the emperor, and he was believed in this way to have sought for the glory of building a new city. And in fact, Nero could not by any means he tried escape from the charge that the fire had been caused by his orders. He therefore turned the accusation against the Christians, and the most cruel tortures were accordingly inflicted upon the innocent. Nay, even new kinds of death were invented, so that, being covered in the skins of wild beasts, they perished by being devoured by dogs, while many were crucified or slain by fire, and not a few were set apart for this purpose, that, when the day came to a close, they should be consumed to serve for light during the night.
Note that in Severus' version there is no reference to Pilate or Christ or Tiberius. Moreover, Severus does not even make a reference to Tacitus as his source which one would expect since Tacitus was known as a famous historian.
Even more oddly, Tacitus, Suetonius and Pliny were all contemporaries, living in the early second century. Both Suetonius and Pliny describe xtianity as mere "superstition." How odd that Tacitus writing at the same time would have had this far more advanced doctrine included in his work. Of course, when modern xtians seek facile answers to support their remaining superstitions they never question anything. I expect you will shove your head more firmly up your ass and insist that Tacitus wrote this passage exactly as you see it and that all the other Greco-Roman and xtian writers ignored it for reasons which I am sure you will invent.
That's what apologists do.
For normal people this shit looks more and more like a medieval forgery.
