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Make a quotable quote here.
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RE: Make a quotable quote here.
Quote:And why would you be ungrateful to someone or to a "power" that has done things to earn that gratitude?

It is still an emotional appeal. Do you do things because because you want peopole to look at you and owe you, or do you do things even if you get no recognition?

A pragmatic way of saying what you are saying without the emotional appeal would be something like, the founders intent withe the Constitution.

"We gave you this, but it can only work if you use it or wish to use it" But "no religious test" and the ability to change says that nothing is set in stone. Their sense of loyalty was not an emotional appeal like "look at what I did for you", but loyalty in the sense that "if we all value each other as individuals collectively your shot at keeping it up will have better odds, but it will only work if you work at it".

Quote:And I guess you're too keen to share your resources with people you do not know
Yes depending and I do that already. When I buy something I pay taxes, that tax gets pooled. It goes to libraries I don't use that others do. It goes to hospitals I haven't used yet but will someday. It goes to pay military service with people who policially and religiously dissagree with me.

But lets say we get nuked or we suffer something even worse than the great depression, you could not tell me seriously that if Canada escaped such a senerio we wouldn't cross their borders illegally. During the dust bowl states and counties were trying to keep US citizens from that affected area out of the places that were doing better.

It is that same stupid psychology of fear that had white people fearing when blacks moved into their neighborhood.
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