RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.)
October 26, 2012 at 1:12 pm
(This post was last modified: October 26, 2012 at 1:13 pm by Darkstar.)
(October 26, 2012 at 12:56 pm)John V Wrote:Darkstar Wrote:Secondly, the miracles of the bible are not attributed to any of the authors.Huh?!? Ever read Acts?
Not in its entirety...
Which prompted me to find this:http://www.answering-christianity.com/je...racles.htm. What makes Jesus so special, then?
(October 26, 2012 at 12:56 pm)John V Wrote:Darkstar Wrote:Jesus did not write any of the bible, so I do not see how miracle claims make the bible more valid. According to Islam, the very writing of the Qur'an was a miracle. (I think I've been spelling it wrong...) We know the Qur'an exists; is that proof of a miracle?Do you find writing a book to be extraordinary? I don't. Remember, I started the line on miracles by noting the principle that extraordinary claims (such as a revelation from god) require extraordinary evidence (such as miracles). (Apparently Rhythm missed this.) Seems pretty circular to say that the revelation is evidence of itself.
Try looking at it this way.
Suppose we found a text that appears older than the gospels. This text has the basic mundane elements of the gospels: Jesus traveling and teaching, parables, etc. But, it has no miraculous elements. In fact, people challenge Jesus to produce a miracle, and he admits he can't.
Wouldn't you say that this text undermines the position that Jesus performed miracles?
Well, we have that text for Islam - it's called the Quran.
I'm just going by their reasoning...I don't agree that it is evidence either. Oh wait, isn't that an argument from silence to say that because we haven't found that text, it probably doesn't exist?
