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Poll: What does religion know about god? (for theists)
This poll is closed.
My particular sect is correct.
13.33%
2 13.33%
My religion is correct, but I don't know about any particular sect.
6.67%
1 6.67%
No existing religion is correct in its interpretation of god.
73.33%
11 73.33%
We all worship the same god under different names.
6.67%
1 6.67%
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Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.)
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.)
The proof of Christianity is suppose to lie by the holy spirit. That is suppose to make you know. Therefore the need of miracles is really not there.

The only problem Islamically, is that Prophets did come with miracles, per Islam clams. Therefore there is inconsistency. The excuse of not coming with miracles was a fallacy as well.

Therefore miracles are not evidence of Christianity, but keeps the story consistent with past stories (miracles of Moses).

Now I think I would like to attack the holy spirit? What is the job of the holy spirit? It's not simply to make you know Christianity is true, but to bring a sacred spirit into the lives of Christians.

The only thing is, that Christians don't show any superior morals to non-Christians.

What is more, is that the Bible states that whom loves the world is without love of God.

Christians tend to love the world. They are not ascetics. But lo and behold they have faith in Jesus. And faith in Jesus is suppose to mean you have the holy spirit making you know the truth.

The thing is it's pretty obvious, that Christians are believing in Christianity for similar reasons that other people believe in their respective religions.

This an essential problem with praising belief.

Belief in evolution for example is not praiseworthy if you simply believe on blind following authority. If you yourself are convinced by a certain amount of knowledge of it, and that knowledge does indicate it's true strongly, and you perceive that, than it's praised.

Otherwise, just believing true things isn't always praiseworthy.

You cannot say that Christians all know Christianity to be true. Yet faith in it is praised. A lot believe primarily due to being born into it and raised up in that religion.

Even if you are right that Christianity can be known by evidence, the problem is that a great amount of Christians haven't even read the Bible but still believe. It cannot be anyway argued that all believers know the bible is true by the holy spirit or that Christianity is true or have believed in it due to good reasons.

And essentially for that, praise in belief in it is illogical.
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Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 23, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Drich - October 23, 2012 at 3:41 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 23, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Drich - October 23, 2012 at 8:51 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 23, 2012 at 8:54 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Drich - October 23, 2012 at 11:54 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Cinjin - October 26, 2012 at 8:42 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by genkaus - October 23, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Simon Moon - October 23, 2012 at 4:39 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by DeistPaladin - October 23, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 23, 2012 at 3:50 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Minimalist - October 23, 2012 at 5:31 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by IATIA - October 26, 2012 at 8:31 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Aroura - October 26, 2012 at 8:52 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 26, 2012 at 9:01 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by frankiej - October 23, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by MysticKnight - October 23, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by genkaus - October 23, 2012 at 4:28 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 23, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by MysticKnight - October 23, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by genkaus - October 25, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by MysticKnight - October 23, 2012 at 4:41 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by MysticKnight - October 23, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by pocaracas - October 23, 2012 at 5:40 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 23, 2012 at 7:04 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Simon Moon - October 23, 2012 at 7:19 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 23, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by MysticKnight - October 23, 2012 at 10:03 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 23, 2012 at 10:15 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by MysticKnight - October 23, 2012 at 11:18 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Minimalist - October 23, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 23, 2012 at 10:40 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 23, 2012 at 11:24 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by MysticKnight - October 23, 2012 at 11:43 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by MysticKnight - October 24, 2012 at 12:00 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 24, 2012 at 10:00 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 24, 2012 at 10:33 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 24, 2012 at 11:39 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 24, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Minimalist - October 24, 2012 at 12:22 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by MysticKnight - October 24, 2012 at 12:30 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Minimalist - October 24, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by MysticKnight - October 24, 2012 at 1:09 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 24, 2012 at 12:40 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Minimalist - October 24, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 24, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by FallentoReason - October 24, 2012 at 10:24 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 24, 2012 at 10:26 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by FallentoReason - October 24, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 25, 2012 at 8:40 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 25, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by FallentoReason - October 25, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 25, 2012 at 10:31 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by FallentoReason - October 25, 2012 at 10:45 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 25, 2012 at 11:08 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by FallentoReason - October 25, 2012 at 11:20 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 25, 2012 at 12:30 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 25, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 26, 2012 at 8:21 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 26, 2012 at 10:04 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Minimalist - October 25, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 25, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Minimalist - October 24, 2012 at 10:18 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by MysticKnight - October 24, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Minimalist - October 25, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 25, 2012 at 1:33 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 25, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 25, 2012 at 1:51 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Minimalist - October 25, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Ben Davis - October 26, 2012 at 8:25 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 26, 2012 at 8:34 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by FallentoReason - October 26, 2012 at 10:12 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 26, 2012 at 10:34 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by FallentoReason - October 26, 2012 at 10:42 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 26, 2012 at 11:22 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by FallentoReason - October 26, 2012 at 11:35 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 26, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 26, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 26, 2012 at 1:12 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 26, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Darkstar - October 26, 2012 at 6:54 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 27, 2012 at 6:25 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by MysticKnight - October 26, 2012 at 10:57 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Minimalist - October 26, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Minimalist - October 26, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Minimalist - October 26, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Faith No More - October 26, 2012 at 8:11 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by Minimalist - October 26, 2012 at 8:21 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by MysticKnight - October 26, 2012 at 9:06 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by IATIA - October 26, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 27, 2012 at 7:48 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 27, 2012 at 9:38 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by FallentoReason - October 27, 2012 at 11:18 am
RE: Why Yahweh? (Or Allah, or Zeus, etc.) - by John V - October 27, 2012 at 12:09 pm

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