(October 29, 2012 at 9:54 pm)Polaris Wrote:(October 29, 2012 at 7:20 am)Brian37 Wrote: Nice cop out. "I understand what he said he just shouldn't have said it that way".
Still does not negate the absurdity of the claim of first 1. An invisible magical disembodied being. 2. But more importantly the repugnant claim of such a claimed character doing NOTHING in a game he set up but didn't have to set up and then blames the victim for what he didn't have to set up.
Skip the damned label for a second, it doesn't matter if you claim your god's name is God or Allah or Blublydeblue.
Lets say a new Superman movie comes out this weekend. In that movie Superman walks past an ally where a woman is getting raped, but in the movie Superman just watches and she gets her throat slit and he only does somthing AFTER she is raped and dies.
It is sick for anyone of any god claim to claim that that god set the game up to blame the game peices for the game they did not set up.
Now, how about a dose of reality. Rape happens, just like any bad event in nature, like volcanos and hurricanes and cancer. It is the dark side of evolution as ratio occurance. The good thing is that it is a MINORITY in our species and we have the positive reaction in reviling such brutality.
But there is no magic to any good or bad that happen in life and there is no one up in the sky causing it or stoping it or allowing it. Only humans can commit rape and only humans can stop rape.
Cop out? Far from it. Since I believe in predestination, I must also accept that hardship is predestined by God as well because only believing the good really makes predestination absurd in light of the present state of reality. It would be a sham to believe in predestination and not also acknowledge the dark side of that belief.
You believe in crap. Nothing more. It is crap when Muslims claim it and when Jews claim it and when Hindus claim it. There is no such thing as a god much less "predestination". You are gullible and falling for your own wishful thinking.
In science if you knew a damned thing about it, and by virtue of this tripe you demonstrate here you have not one clue, you'd know that reality is NOT caos vs order, but both. Instead you do what all theists do, stick an invisible fictional character into the gap.
See if you can spot the pattern.
"It is predestination because of Allah"
"It is predestination because of Yahweh"
"It is predestination because of Vishnu"
Crap is crap. It is crap when others do it and it is crap when you do it. You are not special because you have a pet god claim. You have as much an "inside track" to your superstition as any other pet god claim of any other label.