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Worst Theistic Argument
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RE: Worst Theistic Argument
(September 28, 2009 at 11:40 am)solarwave Wrote: As for Pascal's Wager: although it isn't a good reason to believe in God, don't you think it is good reason to not just sit back and not care whether there is a God or not?

First, the difficulty is that Pascal's Wager cannot be met. You cannot win for losing. For example, to truly satisfy Pascal's Wager you would have to believe in every deity conceived, to make sure you have covered all the bases (if you invest belief in deity X and it turns out deity Y is the real one, you could end up screwed). However, some deities like Yahweh of Christianity and Allah of Islam, get really pissed if you believe in any other gods, so even by covering all your bases you still could end up screwed. Pascal's Wager cannot be met.

Second, this is an atheist forum. They DON'T care whether or not God exists. (Since we are both Christians, I am speaking to you about the only God you and I believe in.) As far as most atheists are concerned, including most of the ones here, even if they had incontrovertible evidence that God exists they would still choose hell over spending an eternity with God, because they absolutely despise him. Spend a few minutes talking to an atheist about the God of the Bible and in very short order you will hear all the strong objections they have against him. As the apostle Paul said, "For the sinful nature is always hostile to God. It never did obey God's laws, and it never will" (Rom. 8:7, NLT).
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)
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Worst Theistic Argument - by Eilonnwy - September 20, 2009 at 6:39 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Edwardo Piet - September 20, 2009 at 6:52 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Tiberius - September 20, 2009 at 10:32 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Rhizomorph13 - September 20, 2009 at 11:01 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Retorth - September 21, 2009 at 12:50 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Edwardo Piet - September 21, 2009 at 4:17 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Ryft - September 21, 2009 at 5:17 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Eilonnwy - September 21, 2009 at 9:46 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Guerilla Radio - September 21, 2009 at 7:06 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Rhizomorph13 - September 21, 2009 at 11:27 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Guerilla Radio - September 22, 2009 at 3:54 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by leo-rcc - September 21, 2009 at 3:08 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Edwardo Piet - September 21, 2009 at 4:02 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by leo-rcc - September 21, 2009 at 4:19 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Retorth - September 21, 2009 at 3:16 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by leo-rcc - September 21, 2009 at 3:17 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Retorth - September 21, 2009 at 3:21 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Overmars - September 21, 2009 at 3:23 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Rhizomorph13 - September 21, 2009 at 3:34 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by leo-rcc - September 21, 2009 at 3:49 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Ryft - September 21, 2009 at 3:57 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Rhizomorph13 - September 21, 2009 at 4:51 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Edwardo Piet - September 21, 2009 at 4:22 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Rhizomorph13 - September 22, 2009 at 10:15 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Guerilla Radio - September 23, 2009 at 6:06 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Violet - September 22, 2009 at 11:46 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Retorth - September 22, 2009 at 11:52 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Edwardo Piet - September 22, 2009 at 12:24 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Violet - September 22, 2009 at 12:38 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Rhizomorph13 - September 22, 2009 at 12:54 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Edwardo Piet - September 22, 2009 at 1:49 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by fr0d0 - September 23, 2009 at 2:23 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Rhizomorph13 - September 23, 2009 at 2:27 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Retorth - September 23, 2009 at 2:31 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by jpayne68177 - September 23, 2009 at 9:50 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by solarwave - September 28, 2009 at 11:40 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by leo-rcc - September 28, 2009 at 11:56 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by solarwave - September 28, 2009 at 12:11 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by leo-rcc - September 28, 2009 at 12:44 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Edwardo Piet - September 28, 2009 at 8:05 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Retorth - September 28, 2009 at 11:56 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Retorth - September 28, 2009 at 12:01 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Retorth - September 28, 2009 at 12:16 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Amphora - October 6, 2009 at 8:14 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Ryft - September 29, 2009 at 5:42 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by leo-rcc - September 29, 2009 at 7:09 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 1:28 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by leo-rcc - September 29, 2009 at 1:46 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 2:33 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Retorth - September 29, 2009 at 7:14 am
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Ryft - September 29, 2009 at 2:09 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Ryft - September 29, 2009 at 3:10 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Tiberius - September 29, 2009 at 1:54 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Retorth - September 29, 2009 at 2:02 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by Retorth - September 29, 2009 at 2:17 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by leo-rcc - September 29, 2009 at 2:34 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 3:14 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by leo-rcc - September 29, 2009 at 3:28 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 3:50 pm
RE: Worst Theistic Argument - by fr0d0 - October 6, 2009 at 8:32 pm
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