It is true because you dont understand it

[Edwardo Piet]

IMO it is as it never ties up logically for me. I see no one counter the logic only dodge and avoid. I'm no authority on this.. I just say what I see. You come out with your ignorant statements on Christianity (check the blaspheming day thread for example) so I'm merely doing the same.

The posts of mine in the blasphemy thread, are deliberate strawman arguments. I'm not trying to make logical arguments there. I'm just blaspheming. I'm stereotyping myself, if you will. Looks like you fell for it

You ignored the bit where I did.

I disbelieve that you've substantiated your claim yet. As far as I can tell, I haven't seen you do so yet.

You have, you replied to them! LOL ...oh - you mean 'see' as in understand.. yeah I agree then - you haven't understood - I've witnessed that

From your point of view, I haven't understood. From my point of view, there has been no content there supporting your claims to understand.

[reading the Bible?]From beginning to end I'm afraid. [he (fr0d0) quoted the Bible Gateway website before this quote]

From my point of view reading the Bible for evidence for God, is as pointless as reading the FSM Gospel for evidence for the FSM. Or if there were, hypothetically speaking, millions of different books for millions of different hypothetical deities - it's no more probable that the Bible is evidence for the Christian God, than it would be that any one of those books would be for any one of their respective deities.

Well we're talking about that in our debate. Care to continue?

Sure, I could be wrong, but I thought my post is the last post there.

I haven't been arguing about Faith here yet though, so at least we're not getting into the whole EVsF thing, in which case I'm not sure if discussing one of the matters is out of bounds.

Of course not. That is entirely rational. Well it would be more plausible if you didn't approach it from a position of not wanting to understand it.

I don't not want to understand it. Just as I don't not want to understand the FSM, I just see pursuing it as a serious subject as kind of futile. I'm more interested in why you believe, and how you justify it (along with other theists of course (and not to leave out the deists, them too)), and then questioning whether your reasons are really reasonable and whether your justifications are really justified.

From your point of view, you may think it's a case of 'not wanting to understand it', but that's your opinion, I myself do not agree - that's not my position. From my point of view, my position is, as you said - entirely rational.

EvF