RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
November 12, 2012 at 8:25 pm
(This post was last modified: November 12, 2012 at 8:43 pm by Vincenzo Vinny G..)
(November 12, 2012 at 7:42 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote:(November 12, 2012 at 7:32 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: What a preposterous question.
I'm not here to prove my atheism to you.
No offense.
On subject:
Dont your views lead to eugenics? And isn`t the main difference between animals and us that we are social animals who have a grasp of the concept of sociaty?
No problem. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
But I don't think the difference between humans and animals is so substantial.
It appears substantial, but it's ultimately just an unguided evolutionary process. And who says, if evolution just happened to produce a human being therefore it's special, but a cockroach is not special?
At the end of the day it's all arbitrary. Human value is totally arbitrary.
edit: I see you decided to change your mind and challenge my position more aggressively, because "you never heard an atheist who talks like this".
To hear another atheist who holds to this kind of a position, I suggest you read works by Richard Dawkins. Today he has softened his position a little bit, to make it palatable. But it's not a scientific change, it's more to appease people.
You will be surprised by other prominent supporters of Eugenics in the past. You won't believe the names if I tell you, so read it yourself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics#Su...nd_critics Ironically the prominent critic of Eugenics according to Wikipedia is GK Chesterton. A Christian.
Also, on your conclusion that "atheists don't talk like this therefore I can't believe you are an atheist", I suggest you read about the Black Swan Theory. Or at least watch the first 30 seconds of this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDbuJtAiABA
You questioned the issue of inside vs outside the womb. I point to an article by prominent ethicists in the Journal of Medical Ethics http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2012/03...00411.full If you are short on time, read just the abstract.
So I think my position is well supported by the academics and sciences. It's not popular in society today because of Christians, and the ideas of charity and mercy that are really just religious tropes we should not take so seriously. Unfortunately, it's difficult to remove the brainwashing from people.
