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Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
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RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
(November 12, 2012 at 8:31 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: I dont eat together with cockroaches in a resteraunt (at least i hope not)
I dont marry a cockroach and have kids with it.
I dont work for a cockroach
I dont take a hitchhikeing cockroach with me in a car.

Equating cockroaches with humans? humans special so why not cockroaches? wtf!
You cannot define human value by comparing it to a differnet species which isnt eaven part of our sociaty

I don't eat together with a baby in a restaurant.
I don't marry a baby and have kids with it.
I don't work for a baby.
I don't take a hitchhiking baby with me in the car.

What's the difference?

You could also say dogs have more moral worth than cats like this:

I don't play catch with my cat.
My cat doesn't greet me when I come home from work by wagging its tail.
I don't trust my cat to guard my house while I am away.
My cat doesn't listen to verbal commands.

Or, comparing the value of dogs to infants:
In fact, I can have more meaningful experiences with a dog than an infant. Training, playing, walking.

But this doesn't make dogs more valuable than infants, does it?

The truth is, everything we do must be rational and scientific. All our laws and our values should be rational and scientific.

And there is no rational or scientific support to say that humans are any more special. Your examples are totally arbitrary.

You are giving in to Christianized beliefs, not secular beliefs.
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Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Reasonable_Jeff - November 9, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cyberman - November 9, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by downbeatplumb - November 9, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Reasonable_Jeff - November 9, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cyberman - November 9, 2012 at 3:22 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Reasonable_Jeff - November 9, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Edwardo Piet - November 9, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Reasonable_Jeff - November 9, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Zen Badger - November 10, 2012 at 5:01 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Norfolk And Chance - November 26, 2012 at 9:00 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Whateverist - November 26, 2012 at 9:37 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by downbeatplumb - November 9, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Jackalope - November 9, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Reasonable_Jeff - November 9, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Kirbmarc - November 9, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by downbeatplumb - November 9, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Darth - November 9, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Minimalist - November 9, 2012 at 3:08 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Simon Moon - November 9, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Creed of Heresy - November 9, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Edwardo Piet - November 9, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by festive1 - November 9, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by festive1 - November 9, 2012 at 8:01 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by JohnDG - November 10, 2012 at 4:50 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by JDS - November 10, 2012 at 10:54 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by TaraJo - November 10, 2012 at 7:36 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by festive1 - November 12, 2012 at 6:45 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Jackalope - November 12, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 6:53 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cato - November 12, 2012 at 8:14 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2012 at 4:56 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Mister Agenda - November 13, 2012 at 4:41 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cyberman - November 12, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cyberman - November 12, 2012 at 6:49 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by festive1 - November 12, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 7:32 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 8:25 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Mister Agenda - November 13, 2012 at 5:11 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by TaraJo - November 12, 2012 at 7:46 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 8:15 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by TaraJo - November 12, 2012 at 9:11 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by TaraJo - November 12, 2012 at 7:31 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Darkstar - November 12, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 12, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 8:52 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 9:17 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cato - November 12, 2012 at 10:51 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by TaraJo - November 12, 2012 at 11:06 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cato - November 12, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 13, 2012 at 11:48 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by TaraJo - November 13, 2012 at 1:24 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 14, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 14, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Darkstar - November 13, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Polaris - November 12, 2012 at 11:11 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by jonb - November 12, 2012 at 11:33 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2012 at 5:02 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2012 at 5:59 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 14, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 14, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 14, 2012 at 3:02 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 14, 2012 at 8:27 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2012 at 8:28 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 14, 2012 at 8:32 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2012 at 8:35 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 20, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 20, 2012 at 9:25 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 20, 2012 at 10:18 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cato - November 20, 2012 at 11:13 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 21, 2012 at 1:01 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 21, 2012 at 1:38 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Whateverist - November 21, 2012 at 3:45 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 21, 2012 at 4:11 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Whateverist - November 21, 2012 at 7:56 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 21, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 21, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 21, 2012 at 4:44 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 22, 2012 at 3:01 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Whateverist - November 21, 2012 at 6:43 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2012 at 10:28 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by KichigaiNeko - November 21, 2012 at 7:42 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Ben Davis - November 21, 2012 at 11:08 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Mister Agenda - November 21, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Ben Davis - November 22, 2012 at 5:28 pm
So who is Vinny? - by Whateverist - November 21, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RE: So who is Vinny? - by genkaus - November 21, 2012 at 1:51 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 21, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 22, 2012 at 3:44 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by KichigaiNeko - November 22, 2012 at 7:55 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by mr.atheist - November 22, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cyberman - November 22, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by mr.atheist - November 25, 2012 at 7:58 pm

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