RE: Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.
November 13, 2012 at 1:08 pm
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2012 at 1:19 pm by John V.)
(November 13, 2012 at 12:35 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Can you provide another method that is better, and a rational reasoning as to why?
Of course not, as it's subjective. Note that you haven't rationally shown utilitarianism to be better than other systems. you can try, but your justifications will at some point include subjective components.
Quote:You bring up an interesting point. Morals evolved to help groups survive, but in the distant past, groups were relatively small and didn't inclue outsiders. This much is still true to an extent today, but is beginning to become less so. At what point can we simply accept other people as human beings and get past our 'outsider' prejudice?When there are no differences among us I suppose, i.e. probably never. Consider that UK law on forced marriage. Suppose you're a UK citizen who opposes forced marriage. Immigrants (outsiders) who consider forced marriage acceptable move in and practice it. Do you pass the law, or simply accept them as human beings?
(November 13, 2012 at 12:53 pm)Rhythm Wrote: But to take this little gem semi-seriously, it isn't the proclamation that one's opinion is correct that is troubling, but the failure to follow through with a compelling reason that it is correct.If you have a compelling reason that a position is correct, then it's not an opinion. Challenging someone to prove that their opinion is correct is just a display of your own ignorance.
(November 13, 2012 at 12:56 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Maybe, but would it be right?It would be subjective, like your current position.
Quote:Suffering unnecesarily is generally bad; can we agree on this first point?No, it's too vague. Be more specific, and consider that I'll ask about your own life to see if your position is ad hoc.
