Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.

[Edwardo Piet]

It's unbecoming to lie about my position. I made it quite clear, more than once, that the tautological fallacy is actually true, but is considered fallacious in that it doesn't add anything to the discussion.

I'm not lying. I'm giving my honest viewpoint on how you reacted to me. To paraphrase what happened from my perspective at least: The tautological fallacy would be if I said "Existence is always existence because existent is always existent". I was trying to explain that by "Existence is always existent because that's a tautology" I meant that the statement can't be false because tautologies can't be false. That makes sense. I was just trying to demonstrate to you that what I was stating to you was true by definition so you were denying something that cannot be false.

You then responded with "Enough said" which seemed to me that you agreed but missed my point.

So, I then said "Well if you agree then perhaps you can answer my concluding question: Since existence has always existed why do we need God for the universe?"

But then you responded by saying that you didn't agree in the first place. So then I was confused.

I may have made the fallacy once or twice by using the word "because" when I should have used the word "means" because I was trying to simply demonstrate that I was stating something that is true by definition, and you were denying it. But I also correctly explained how what I was saying was a tautology, in a non-fallacious way and that should have been enough for you to agree that what I was saying was true. If I genuinely made the fallacy, you paid attention to that but you didn't respond to the fact that I had also made the same statement several times in a non-fallacious way, and it was a tautology, so you were denying something that must be true.