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Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
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RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
(November 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm)Rhythm Wrote: No Vinny, lol, I'm saying that I don't think your appraisal of the relative level happiness of people from 500 years ago (especially for the reasons you offered) was anywhere close to accurate or well researched. Those "artificial pressures" you seem to think didn't exist are clearly and obviously present.

Way to miss the forest for the trees, Rhythm.

The point was that no matter how much civilization improves, well-being is relatively stagnant, providing the changes in civilization are gradual and not sudden (like the stock market crash in the 20s).

The net value of artificial pressures remain the same. Sometimes, they get worse than a civilization gets better.

Therefore, well-being is relativistic, and therefore the well-being of "weak people" is not an objective measure when it comes to eugenics.
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Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Reasonable_Jeff - November 9, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cyberman - November 9, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by downbeatplumb - November 9, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Reasonable_Jeff - November 9, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cyberman - November 9, 2012 at 3:22 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Reasonable_Jeff - November 9, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Edwardo Piet - November 9, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Reasonable_Jeff - November 9, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Zen Badger - November 10, 2012 at 5:01 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Norfolk And Chance - November 26, 2012 at 9:00 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Whateverist - November 26, 2012 at 9:37 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by downbeatplumb - November 9, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Jackalope - November 9, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Reasonable_Jeff - November 9, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Kirbmarc - November 9, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by downbeatplumb - November 9, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Darth - November 9, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Minimalist - November 9, 2012 at 3:08 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Simon Moon - November 9, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Creed of Heresy - November 9, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Edwardo Piet - November 9, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by festive1 - November 9, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by festive1 - November 9, 2012 at 8:01 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by JohnDG - November 10, 2012 at 4:50 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by JDS - November 10, 2012 at 10:54 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by TaraJo - November 10, 2012 at 7:36 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by festive1 - November 12, 2012 at 6:45 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Jackalope - November 12, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 6:53 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cato - November 12, 2012 at 8:14 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2012 at 4:56 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Mister Agenda - November 13, 2012 at 4:41 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cyberman - November 12, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cyberman - November 12, 2012 at 6:49 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by festive1 - November 12, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 7:32 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 8:25 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Mister Agenda - November 13, 2012 at 5:11 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by TaraJo - November 12, 2012 at 7:46 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 8:15 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by TaraJo - November 12, 2012 at 9:11 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by TaraJo - November 12, 2012 at 7:31 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Darkstar - November 12, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 12, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 8:52 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 9:17 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cato - November 12, 2012 at 10:51 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by TaraJo - November 12, 2012 at 11:06 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cato - November 12, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 13, 2012 at 11:48 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by TaraJo - November 13, 2012 at 1:24 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 14, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 14, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Darkstar - November 13, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Polaris - November 12, 2012 at 11:11 pm
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RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2012 at 5:02 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2012 at 5:59 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 14, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 14, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 14, 2012 at 3:02 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 14, 2012 at 8:27 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2012 at 8:28 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 14, 2012 at 8:32 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2012 at 8:35 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 20, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 20, 2012 at 9:25 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 20, 2012 at 10:18 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cato - November 20, 2012 at 11:13 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 21, 2012 at 1:01 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 21, 2012 at 1:38 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Whateverist - November 21, 2012 at 3:45 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 21, 2012 at 4:11 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Whateverist - November 21, 2012 at 7:56 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 21, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 21, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 21, 2012 at 4:44 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 22, 2012 at 3:01 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Whateverist - November 21, 2012 at 6:43 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2012 at 10:28 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by KichigaiNeko - November 21, 2012 at 7:42 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Ben Davis - November 21, 2012 at 11:08 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Mister Agenda - November 21, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Ben Davis - November 22, 2012 at 5:28 pm
So who is Vinny? - by Whateverist - November 21, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RE: So who is Vinny? - by genkaus - November 21, 2012 at 1:51 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 21, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Anomalocaris - November 22, 2012 at 3:44 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by KichigaiNeko - November 22, 2012 at 7:55 am
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by mr.atheist - November 22, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by Cyberman - November 22, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong - by mr.atheist - November 25, 2012 at 7:58 pm

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