RE: Operation Pillar of Cloud (Israeli intervention in Gaza)
November 18, 2012 at 10:41 pm
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2012 at 10:44 pm by Stanley.)
(November 18, 2012 at 10:39 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote:(November 18, 2012 at 10:29 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Has Stanley really said something against the whole Semitic people or just against jews? Anti-semite is the jewish attempt to bring in racism when the issue is usually religion. One could call Hitler a legitimate anti-semite because he opposed the entire set of people that are included in the set called Semitic people. However, people of today in the post zionistic Israel era almost exclusively speak of anti-jewish sentiment. It would be rare today to find a true anti-semite.
Since this is an atheist forum and we don't believe in any of the basis for a people called the jews, they are just as silly as scientologists or mormons to us. They get no special dispensation.
Well as far as I know.
Antisemitism is the word used to define politicaly motivated discrimination and hatred of the jewish people (Jewish world conspiracy), this also includes non-religious jews, since they are considered (by antisemites) to be part of a "race"
Antijudaiism is the word used to define discrimination and\or reject of the jewish religion.
And I remember how I was tought at school, that "Semites" was the term given to people in the middle east as a race, under the influence of 19th century racism, and that it was later (end 19th beginning 20th century) only used for jewish people.
(November 18, 2012 at 10:16 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Noble...but when they drop cluster bombs on refugee camps even the noblest sentiment can be carried too far.
There are no good guys in that conflict. There are only victims and abusers. In that, its a lot like the catholic church.
Well I am not someone who gives them a free pass to do whatever they want.
Let`s just say, I understand and defend the existence of Israel to exist amongst the community of nations.
It has not got more or less rights than any other nation.
Bedtime for me, I'm lucky enough to live in a part of the world that is not bombarded every evening with rockets from Israeli war planes, goodnight.