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A Simple Question...or 3!
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RE: A Simple Question...or 3!
They may not be obvious to a child, but they are "settled factoids". They will continue to be so until such time as we have reason to impeach them. To suggest otherwise would make the word fact, and all communication of said "facts" meaningless/impossible (which it may very well be...but here we are communicating..nevertheless). The point of calling a "settled factoid" into question (without actually offering anything to call it into question) is rarely one of correction or accuracy...merely an attempt to scorch the earth...which won't actually help either party (the earth is burning for the aggressor as well as the defender..nothing can be offered as evidence for any proposition from that point on if consistency is a requirement - (Apo had a great thread on this..an endless regress of "you may be wrong" is always possible). Besides, this damning indictment of "settled factoids" is an invocation of a "settled factoid" itself, the mind reels. I have no problem in discussing the excruciating inaccuracies of a word or term as applied in general to science....but that's rarely the conversation that's being had. "We may be wrong" is often pretext for "and so this next assertion of mine is at least that much more correct - that space between scientific law or theory and absolute truth -whatever that space may be- is where my proposition resides"

For example.

It is scientifically impossible to fly by means of magical incantations. This is a settled factoid.
-that's not absolute truth...those things that would suggest this are just a scientific theories we've invented....we may be wrong-
Fine, then we may also be wrong about there being such a thing as flight at all, "flight" is also dependent on those observations and their attendant explanations- your spells are still insufficient.

(be as generous as you like Whatevs...I think that it's probably apparent that it isn't in -my- nature..hehehehe)
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A Simple Question...or 3! - by ronedee - November 16, 2012 at 10:25 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by festive1 - November 16, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Darkstar - November 16, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cinjin - November 16, 2012 at 10:39 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by ronedee - November 16, 2012 at 10:59 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Darkstar - November 16, 2012 at 11:38 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by festive1 - November 17, 2012 at 12:03 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Napoléon - November 17, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Aractus - November 17, 2012 at 9:32 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by mr.atheist - November 16, 2012 at 10:49 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Minimalist - November 16, 2012 at 10:51 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by jonb - November 17, 2012 at 10:04 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Angrboda - November 17, 2012 at 9:24 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2012 at 12:52 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Whateverist - November 17, 2012 at 1:07 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cato - November 17, 2012 at 1:36 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cinjin - November 17, 2012 at 2:04 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Darkstar - November 17, 2012 at 2:14 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Whateverist - November 17, 2012 at 2:18 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Darkstar - November 17, 2012 at 2:25 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cato - November 17, 2012 at 3:46 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Aractus - November 17, 2012 at 4:02 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Whateverist - November 17, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by ronedee - November 19, 2012 at 12:20 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by festive1 - November 19, 2012 at 12:40 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by downbeatplumb - November 19, 2012 at 6:53 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Gilgamesh - November 17, 2012 at 4:04 am
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RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Whateverist - November 17, 2012 at 9:17 am
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RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cyberman - November 17, 2012 at 11:55 pm
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RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Ryantology - November 18, 2012 at 1:15 am
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RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Minimalist - November 17, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by The Grand Nudger - November 18, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Aractus - November 18, 2012 at 12:35 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by The Grand Nudger - November 18, 2012 at 12:40 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Aractus - November 18, 2012 at 12:48 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cyberman - November 18, 2012 at 12:48 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Aractus - November 18, 2012 at 12:58 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Darkstar - November 18, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by The Grand Nudger - November 18, 2012 at 12:59 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cyberman - November 18, 2012 at 1:13 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by The Grand Nudger - November 18, 2012 at 2:10 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Undeceived - November 18, 2012 at 3:14 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by JohnDG - November 18, 2012 at 5:14 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Welsh cake - November 18, 2012 at 6:05 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Aractus - November 18, 2012 at 6:50 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Ryantology - November 18, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cyberman - November 18, 2012 at 12:48 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Kousbroek - November 18, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Aractus - November 19, 2012 at 10:14 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cyberman - November 19, 2012 at 12:14 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Minimalist - November 18, 2012 at 11:41 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Kirbmarc - November 18, 2012 at 12:02 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by The Grand Nudger - November 18, 2012 at 12:12 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cyberman - November 18, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Angrboda - November 18, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by ronedee - November 19, 2012 at 2:01 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Whateverist - November 19, 2012 at 3:18 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by jonb - November 19, 2012 at 10:08 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Mister Agenda - November 20, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Faith No More - November 18, 2012 at 1:47 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Minimalist - November 18, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Kousbroek - November 18, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cyberman - November 18, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Whateverist - November 18, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cyberman - November 18, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by ronedee - November 19, 2012 at 1:13 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cyberman - November 19, 2012 at 1:23 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cinjin - November 19, 2012 at 10:10 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Darkstar - November 19, 2012 at 10:42 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Angrboda - November 21, 2012 at 10:36 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Darkstar - December 2, 2012 at 8:22 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Angrboda - November 19, 2012 at 1:20 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Angrboda - November 19, 2012 at 4:01 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by The Grand Nudger - November 19, 2012 at 11:20 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Whateverist - November 19, 2012 at 11:39 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Aractus - November 20, 2012 at 7:24 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by jonb - November 20, 2012 at 7:34 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cyberman - November 20, 2012 at 1:07 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Jackalope - November 20, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Aractus - November 21, 2012 at 3:31 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cyberman - November 21, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by The Grand Nudger - November 19, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Welsh cake - November 19, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Minimalist - November 19, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Whateverist - November 19, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Ryantology - November 19, 2012 at 10:34 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2012 at 10:11 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Cato - November 20, 2012 at 1:15 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Mister Agenda - November 20, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by KichigaiNeko - November 21, 2012 at 7:52 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Aractus - November 21, 2012 at 8:59 am
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by ram - November 24, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by Simon Moon - November 24, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RE: A Simple Question...or 3! - by ThomM - December 2, 2012 at 7:50 pm

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