RE: Ron Paul - Gone but still an Asshole
November 20, 2012 at 8:09 pm
(This post was last modified: November 20, 2012 at 8:13 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(November 20, 2012 at 7:51 pm)Ryantology Wrote:(November 20, 2012 at 4:35 pm)Chuck Wrote: But using your logic, would't a plurality of other nations also get a definitive say in whether it suits them to accept any changes to geopolitical situation resulting from such a session?
No. The United States is not in a legal union with other nations as an individual state is with the nation.
Well, the united states is in a union with other states in the form of united nations. That it's not the same type of union as the united states is less relevent because in the absence of any terms regarding secession in the any original formal legal instrument binding the union together, your argument would seem to suggest the existence of the union, not specific form of the union set out by any legal instrument forming its basis, implicit gives its component such a right.
On the other hand, the legal precedence of civil war suggests that, so long as the union would theoretically survive in some significant form after any theoretical secession attempt, then all member states not seceding is implicitly regarded as having cast a veto on secession.