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[Fidel_Castronaut]

I thought that was generally the criticism leveled at atheists by theists (No morals without god etc)?

And I thought atheists generally level the same criticism towards theists?

Well I've never presumed that someone who is religious per se is 'immoral' because they ascribe to one of the many religions (I can't speak for all atheists).

I read the bible (or whatever holy text) and can see plain as day that several passages are immoral (and downright sadistic in some cases), but I don't immediately link that to the people who believe it.

If I had a nickle for every time I've been called immoral (or evil, or a devil worshipper, or whatever) because I'm atheist though, we'll, I'd be around $1 better off. "The fool hath said..." And all that (not an ascription of morality per se, but an automatic denigration of the position based solely on the position and not the person).