(November 25, 2012 at 8:07 pm)Daniel Wrote:Really, was it that important to show that image. Feel good now. That guy looks like you.(November 24, 2012 at 11:52 pm)Daniel Wrote: If a man marries a 9-year old and has sex with her it's still wrong. Here's an image to help you:Wow, what Nazis! I guess if you want something done right you have to host it on your own f*ing website these days:
Muhammad, Aisha and her doll.
Quote:No you have not answered it once again . Please do not try to infer that your "for or against homosexual marriage" was the question I wanted answered since you had answered that question but seem really reluctant to answer this question here:
(November 25, 2012 at 1:18 am)Waratah Wrote: Still not clear. We are not talking about a 9 year old girl. I am talking about adult marriage, sexuality and sin.I already answered your question. Yes I am against same-sex marriage. However I'm not against civil rights, I don't support criminalization of homosexuality, and I don't presume to tell non-Christians how to live their lives.
A married homosexual couple having sex is wrong? Yes or no included in the answer please, will hopefully help make it clear. Actually just a yes or no answer would make it clear.
I don't give a shit about the new testament. To be married in Australia has not needed the churches for a while now. So your "Porneia" is irrelevant.
A married homosexual couple having sex is wrong?
YES or NO.
(November 25, 2012 at 8:40 pm)Daniel Wrote:So fucking what. It's still a contract. Even before the church did marriages it still was a contract. Again so fucking what. This also does not change the fact the church does not control the contracts anymore. Get over it(November 25, 2012 at 6:36 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Marriage by the church and civil marriage are two different things.I'm going to call you out on this. When the Church had the authority over marriage - yes including the days of the Israelites - it was always a contract, and always administered by the Church. Whether that contract is administered by the Church or by the State doesn't change the fundamental fact that it remains "one and the same". It was a contract in the time of Christ, the contract was not administered by the State authorities, but it was a contract nonetheless.
The church imbues the act of marriage with some mumbo-jumbo which they call a sacrament. And they only allow marriages between a man and a woman. It's their institution, their rules, they can do whatever the hell they want with their associates.
The civil marriage is the real contract that two people make and the one that is valid in a court of law.
Quote:If you want to give the Church the full right to administer the contracts without any State involvement whatsoever, then you can do whatever you want with the State's version. Until you hand the Church the power to do that, the Church will defend the institution which the State now wholly controls. You should be in favour of such a move as it will represent further separation of Church and State.The church is irrelevant for marriage now. Get over it.
I really hate to admit it but Australia is so backwards in this reguard of Marriage Equality. Same gender marriage is not allowed. According to the polls Australians are for Marriage Equality, so it will happen. It will be such a good feeling when we do have Marriage Equality here in Australia, at least we will not have government endorsed discrimination against the LGBT community and I think it will be such a good thing for society.