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RE: Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?
December 2, 2012 at 4:51 pm (This post was last modified: December 2, 2012 at 4:53 pm by Darkstar.)
(December 2, 2012 at 4:16 pm)Drich Wrote:
It's not like Christianity has to invent atrocities to blame on satan so as to keep people in check. These things happen because there are those of us who live outside of God's expressed will intentionally and unashamedly. As a result Evil things happen. Satan gets the blame because 'we' can not admit the truth. Bottom line bad things happen, and 'satan' is not a valid reason as to why they do. 'Satan' is a copout for those who can not admit the truth.
Yeah, so atheists aren't being decieved by Satan, as some people actually claim.
Drich Wrote:
(December 1, 2012 at 3:59 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Hmmm...that is true. But...it makes you wonder. Humans are supposedly corrupt from birth and can never live 'righteous' lives. So, is it Satan corrupting them, or are they naturally bad and Satan is unnecessary? (assuming Satan is the bad guy)
Considering that Satan is also responsible for that coruption (original sin) and god let him do that too, knowing how it would end...
Satan is not the 'god of evil.'
I never said he was.
(December 2, 2012 at 4:16 pm)Drich Wrote: Satan's stated role is deceiver, liar, temptor. He is their to identify and encourage other options (with some more agressivly than others Job verses Adam and Eve.)
Yeah, so...you just said the evil was us, and now you admit he is trying to manipulate us.
(December 2, 2012 at 4:16 pm)Drich Wrote: But as far as him being any type of lord or mini deity He lost whatever independance he had at the cross. Satan was defeated their and now is just a shadow of who he once was.
Where did you come to that conclusion!?! You do realize that he takes over the world in Revelation, right?
Revelation 12:9
9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Revelation 13:1-8
The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4 People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”
5 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.
Hmmm...that is true. But...it makes you wonder. Humans are supposedly corrupt from birth and can never live 'righteous' lives. So, is it Satan corrupting them, or are they naturally bad and Satan is unnecessary? (assuming Satan is the bad guy)
