RE: Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?
December 4, 2012 at 3:05 pm
(This post was last modified: December 4, 2012 at 3:15 pm by Angrboda.)
(December 4, 2012 at 2:11 pm)Drich Wrote:Quote:Drich, I'm feeling poorly today. Could you provide a reference to the specific passages in Mark, Luke and Acts which you claim explain the cessation of miracles. I'd like to read them.First explain why you believe Miricals have stopped?
My bad. I was referring to your statement below, that it is explained that there is a change in the frequency or nature of direct revelation. Please provide the references in question.
(Btw, I'm curious what one uses to judge "the accuracy and content" of a revelation with. If the revelation is not original, it's hard to determine that it's a revelation at all, as it's likely just repeating prior revelation. If it's an original revelation, then what does one compare its content to in order to validate it. [and if you say that it's consistent with other revelations, you're back at the 'unoriginal' horn of this dilemma. If I repeat a bunch of motifs that are attested to by tradition and then at the end of a long speech tack on something novel, does that make my something novel more likely to be true?] Your answer is wholly unsatisfactory. Let me give you a novel and unfamiliar revelation and you can tell me, based on accuracy of content, whether it's a valid revelation or not. "In the December a year from this date, apophenia will finish reading a book and her eyes will be opened." (Mind you, this 'book' could be the holy bible for all you know; tell me if this is a genuine revelation based on the criteria you've just laid out. Furthermore, you claim a revelation that you should seek a new church. Please explain what was accurate about the content of that revelation, presumably with reference to its content, preferably something that is not merely the result of filtering your life events through the corrupting influence of cognitive bias; what in the directive to seek a new church do you regard as true? [we'll deal with the mundanity question and base rate probabilities after we have the actual revelation and its result.])
You stated that God revealed to you that you should find a new church. I'm interested in the specifics of this revelation. Was this another dream, or a sermon you picked out to listen to, or perhaps a bunch of angry parishioners telling you to get the fuck out? Inquiring minds want to know.
I'm still puzzling out whether your wife has a problem with an illegal narcotic or whether something about coastal water fowl is troubling her. Perhaps we can deal with that another time.
(November 27, 2012 at 4:04 pm)Drich Wrote:(November 26, 2012 at 7:37 pm)Brakeman Wrote: God and jesus spoke to well over a million people as chronicled in the bible, but in today's modern world god seems to only speak to his people in warm, fuzzy, peace feelings. Why the abrupt change? Are christians less apt to make up verbal conversations for their imaginary lord thesedays?
Jesus explains the change at the end of Matthew and Luke explains the Change in the beginning of the book of ACTS. It all boils down to Christ leaving and the Holy Spirit taking His place. The Holy Spirit Starts out directing 'feelings' but if one if faithful feelings get replaced by actual direction.
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