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Why are YOU an Atheist?
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
To the OP:

Why am I an atheist? It seems that some people believe in something they call gods (but sometimes only one). Since those people are classified as theists, no matter which brand of gods they subscribe to, anyone who does not share a belief in any of those gods must be - by default - an a-theist, someone without a belief in gods.

Now I don't really spend much time looking for these gods. I've never gotten a good enough description a god to make me feel confident I could identify it even if I tripped over one. It is hard to be sure just how eternal they are and just how omni- their various super powers must be. And then there is the question of their role in the creation of the universe.

I've never understood what the minimal creator requirement would be for godhood. I'm pretty sure those physicist who bring heavy new elements into creation for the fleetingest of instants are not gods. But just how much of the universe must a putative god be responsible for anyway? Half? 1%?

However that may be, there is then the question of whether they may (or perhaps must) work within the constraints of the material at hand. In other words, must they also be responsible for determining the very properties of the stuff they create - or - can they get partial credit if they at least take something very basic but pre-existing but, by putting their own special whammy on it, make it into the stuff we perceive?

Then there is the question of intent. Even if gods create 100% of the universe from scratch, must it represent a deliberate attempt at perfection? What if god is just some being on a grand scale that, as a natural 'bodily' function just excretes galaxies or maybe big bangs? It would certainly be 'his' creation but would it satisfy the creator requirement of godhood if it were not a deliberate creation representing the realization of some holy goal?

Then there are the questions pertaining to having a plan-for-man. But I won't even go there. Suffice to say I find the concept so vague as to be incomprehensible. Until someone tells me exactly what the minimal requirements must be for godhood, I can't be bothered to wonder if there are any.
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Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Doubting_Thomas - October 14, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by jonb - October 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Doubting_Thomas - October 14, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by jonb - October 14, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Doubting_Thomas - October 14, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Cyberman - October 14, 2012 at 2:58 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by IATIA - October 14, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Doubting_Thomas - October 14, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by IATIA - October 14, 2012 at 7:33 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by IATIA - October 14, 2012 at 10:17 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Darkstar - October 14, 2012 at 10:24 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Minimalist - October 14, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by jonb - October 14, 2012 at 5:02 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Minimalist - October 14, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by TaraJo - October 14, 2012 at 6:11 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by jonb - October 14, 2012 at 6:52 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by TaraJo - October 14, 2012 at 7:02 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by jonb - October 14, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - October 14, 2012 at 7:12 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by DaveSumm - October 14, 2012 at 7:15 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Minimalist - October 14, 2012 at 9:50 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Whateverist - October 14, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by IATIA - October 15, 2012 at 12:21 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Doubting_Thomas - October 15, 2012 at 2:34 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by pocaracas - October 15, 2012 at 5:07 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Angrboda - October 15, 2012 at 5:48 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Endplaintwo - October 15, 2012 at 7:05 pm
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Gilgamesh - October 15, 2012 at 7:34 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Darkstar - October 15, 2012 at 7:44 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by naimless - October 17, 2012 at 10:24 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by overlord fombax - October 17, 2012 at 10:48 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by jonb - October 18, 2012 at 6:26 am
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Darkstar - October 18, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by jonb - October 18, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by overlord fombax - October 18, 2012 at 2:02 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by thesummerqueen - October 18, 2012 at 8:58 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by downbeatplumb - October 18, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Angrboda - October 24, 2012 at 9:50 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by pocaracas - October 24, 2012 at 11:50 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Cyberman - October 24, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by JosephBowie - October 26, 2012 at 9:05 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Angrboda - October 27, 2012 at 4:41 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Kirbmarc - October 28, 2012 at 4:56 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Utracia - October 28, 2012 at 10:02 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Edwardo Piet - November 4, 2012 at 8:54 am
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Gooders1002 - November 9, 2012 at 4:50 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Kane - November 11, 2012 at 6:01 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 12, 2012 at 6:28 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Whateverist - November 14, 2012 at 11:07 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by genkaus - November 15, 2012 at 4:22 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by jonb - November 15, 2012 at 6:26 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by HorribleOffensiveScouser91 - November 15, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by jonb - November 15, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by HorribleOffensiveScouser91 - November 15, 2012 at 9:39 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Faith No More - November 12, 2012 at 7:33 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by mr.atheist - November 14, 2012 at 6:29 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by mr.atheist - November 15, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Whateverist - November 15, 2012 at 10:52 pm
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by naimless - November 26, 2012 at 1:36 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by squitten - November 30, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by thesummerqueen - November 30, 2012 at 2:24 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 30, 2012 at 3:31 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by DoctorHver - December 3, 2012 at 11:07 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - December 4, 2012 at 4:25 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by thesummerqueen - December 4, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - December 4, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by thesummerqueen - December 4, 2012 at 4:44 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - December 4, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by LastPoet - December 4, 2012 at 4:55 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by thesummerqueen - December 4, 2012 at 5:02 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - December 4, 2012 at 5:31 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by pocaracas - December 4, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - December 4, 2012 at 6:35 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Kirbmarc - December 4, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by thesummerqueen - December 4, 2012 at 5:39 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Darkstar - December 4, 2012 at 5:43 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by pocaracas - December 4, 2012 at 6:39 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Rayaan - December 4, 2012 at 6:46 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - December 4, 2012 at 6:47 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by WhatIfGodWasJustAMyth - December 4, 2012 at 7:01 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Brunitski - December 4, 2012 at 10:50 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Whateverist - December 4, 2012 at 11:35 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Great Ape - December 6, 2012 at 4:26 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by binny - December 6, 2012 at 7:24 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Kirbmarc - December 6, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Edwardo Piet - December 31, 2012 at 5:59 am
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 2, 2013 at 11:51 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by thesummerqueen - January 2, 2013 at 10:36 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Zone - January 7, 2013 at 6:59 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Telly03 - January 8, 2013 at 9:58 pm
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by paulpablo - January 9, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Ari - January 13, 2013 at 6:58 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Esquilax - January 13, 2013 at 7:29 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Brian37 - January 13, 2013 at 7:28 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Esquilax - January 14, 2013 at 2:51 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by killybob - January 13, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Mothonis - January 17, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by KaNikki - January 18, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by TromboneAtheist - January 20, 2013 at 10:45 am
RE: Why are YOU an Atheist? - by Kayenneh - January 20, 2013 at 10:48 am
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