Here is a previous thread of mine that I would like to expand on:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-15686.html
I've been toying with a thought for years. So many people tell me they have never thought about it. I would really like everyone's ideas/views on this. Most importantly, I'm interested in how Christians will try to argue it.
Everything from here on is under the (in my opinion) dumb assertion that god DOES exist.
So, from the attached thread, one can justify that god is entertained by evil which equates to problems if tying to find the "goodness" of god.
Adam and Eve committed the first sin, giving us original sin. Why were they able to commit a sinful act? Why did god see the need to allow sin? Entertainment. But the bible says that satan(a fucking talking snake) deceived Adam and Eve into committing sin. So, for Adam and Eve to commit sin, satan MUST be present. So again, why would god have allowed satan to be near man.
So according to the bible, man did not create evil, man was infected with it. So evil existed before man. So where did evil come from? There are ONLY two options:
1- God himself created evil which means that evil is part of him. This would mean that god is the foremost expert on evil. Any argument?
2- Satan himself created evil which means that he is a creator! If satan created something that did not exist before then he could create anything and therefore would be equal in power to that of GOD. This implies that "Armageddon" would not be such a decisive war. Arguments?
One might argue that the bible says that satan " allowed evil to manifest in his heart." We'll, this still implies that it was created within him, that by "allowing" it to manifest in this way is still creation because the evil was not there before. It would be his tactic of creation. If he did not create evil, then god did.
Christians, do you see that it must be this way? One of these must be true. Which is easier to stomach? 1? Or 2?
Furthermore, maybe satan is the good one!? God, fulfilling the prophecy of "satan" has betrayed us and lied and convinced many that his words are true. Satan seems to take the higher ground and just ignores the dimwit tee loud mouthed GOD that is always talkin shit and creating double standards.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-15686.html
I've been toying with a thought for years. So many people tell me they have never thought about it. I would really like everyone's ideas/views on this. Most importantly, I'm interested in how Christians will try to argue it.
Everything from here on is under the (in my opinion) dumb assertion that god DOES exist.
So, from the attached thread, one can justify that god is entertained by evil which equates to problems if tying to find the "goodness" of god.
Adam and Eve committed the first sin, giving us original sin. Why were they able to commit a sinful act? Why did god see the need to allow sin? Entertainment. But the bible says that satan(a fucking talking snake) deceived Adam and Eve into committing sin. So, for Adam and Eve to commit sin, satan MUST be present. So again, why would god have allowed satan to be near man.
So according to the bible, man did not create evil, man was infected with it. So evil existed before man. So where did evil come from? There are ONLY two options:
1- God himself created evil which means that evil is part of him. This would mean that god is the foremost expert on evil. Any argument?
2- Satan himself created evil which means that he is a creator! If satan created something that did not exist before then he could create anything and therefore would be equal in power to that of GOD. This implies that "Armageddon" would not be such a decisive war. Arguments?
One might argue that the bible says that satan " allowed evil to manifest in his heart." We'll, this still implies that it was created within him, that by "allowing" it to manifest in this way is still creation because the evil was not there before. It would be his tactic of creation. If he did not create evil, then god did.
Christians, do you see that it must be this way? One of these must be true. Which is easier to stomach? 1? Or 2?
Furthermore, maybe satan is the good one!? God, fulfilling the prophecy of "satan" has betrayed us and lied and convinced many that his words are true. Satan seems to take the higher ground and just ignores the dimwit tee loud mouthed GOD that is always talkin shit and creating double standards.
