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Good ol evil
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RE: Good ol evil
(December 6, 2012 at 3:36 pm)SpecUVdust Wrote: So according to the bible, man did not create evil, man was infected with it. So evil existed before man. So where did evil come from? There are ONLY two options:

1- God himself created evil which means that evil is part of him. This would mean that god is the foremost expert on evil. Any argument?

2- Satan himself created evil which means that he is a creator! If satan created something that did not exist before then he could create anything and therefore would be equal in power to that of GOD. This implies that "Armageddon" would not be such a decisive war. Arguments?

One might argue that the bible says that satan " allowed evil to manifest in his heart." We'll, this still implies that it was created within him, that by "allowing" it to manifest in this way is still creation because the evil was not there before. It would be his tactic of creation. If he did not create evil, then god did.

Christians, do you see that it must be this way? One of these must be true. Which is easier to stomach? 1? Or 2?

False dilema...

3- Mankind created evil. If everything in creation was "good", then where was evil? If Adam and Eve did not know good from evil, then how could they sin? I thought a person couldn't sin out of "innocence"? Perhaps the knowledge of good and evil gave them a new perspective? What do I think the first "sin" was? Shame... (there eyes were opened and they realised they were NOT clothed, I.E. naked) What do I think the second "sin" was? Denial of accountability..

Have fun with that!
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Good ol evil - by SpecUVdust - December 6, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: Good ol evil - by JohnDG - December 7, 2012 at 4:13 am
RE: Good ol evil - by Zen Badger - December 7, 2012 at 5:48 am
RE: Good ol evil - by KichigaiNeko - December 7, 2012 at 5:53 am
RE: Good ol evil - by catfish - December 7, 2012 at 6:18 am
RE: Good ol evil - by Zen Badger - December 7, 2012 at 6:25 am
RE: Good ol evil - by catfish - December 7, 2012 at 6:35 am
RE: Good ol evil - by Zen Badger - December 7, 2012 at 6:54 am
RE: Good ol evil - by Voltron - December 7, 2012 at 11:55 am
RE: Good ol evil - by JohnDG - December 7, 2012 at 6:48 am
RE: Good ol evil - by catfish - December 7, 2012 at 6:55 am
RE: Good ol evil - by Zen Badger - December 7, 2012 at 7:07 am
RE: Good ol evil - by catfish - December 7, 2012 at 7:11 am
RE: Good ol evil - by Zen Badger - December 7, 2012 at 7:21 am
RE: Good ol evil - by JohnDG - December 7, 2012 at 7:00 am
RE: Good ol evil - by catfish - December 7, 2012 at 7:01 am
RE: Good ol evil - by JohnDG - December 7, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: Good ol evil - by SpecUVdust - December 7, 2012 at 9:01 am
RE: Good ol evil - by catfish - December 7, 2012 at 8:00 pm
RE: Good ol evil - by SpecUVdust - December 7, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RE: Good ol evil - by SpecUVdust - December 7, 2012 at 8:51 pm
RE: Good ol evil - by catfish - December 7, 2012 at 9:04 pm
RE: Good ol evil - by Minimalist - December 7, 2012 at 9:27 pm
RE: Good ol evil - by catfish - December 7, 2012 at 10:06 pm
RE: Good ol evil - by Minimalist - December 8, 2012 at 12:10 am
RE: Good ol evil - by Zen Badger - December 8, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: Good ol evil - by catfish - December 12, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RE: Good ol evil - by SpecUVdust - December 8, 2012 at 12:07 am
RE: Good ol evil - by Darkstar - December 12, 2012 at 11:17 pm
RE: Good ol evil - by catfish - December 12, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: Good ol evil - by Darkstar - December 12, 2012 at 11:33 pm
RE: Good ol evil - by catfish - December 12, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Good ol evil - by Darkstar - December 12, 2012 at 11:50 pm

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