RE: Why such controversy over prank?
December 9, 2012 at 1:17 am
(This post was last modified: December 9, 2012 at 1:18 am by Shell B.)
(December 9, 2012 at 12:36 am)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: Choose the one which fits into your concept of using language:
Wow. Those all have widely different meanings in some cases.
Quote:Hospitals are responsible to keep medical files under closure, giving out this kind of information without the patients concent is a breech of trust and illegal (at least here).
The only fault falling on the nurse is believing the "prank" to be fact.
And then giving away information about a patient over the phone. That there was a breech was her fault.
Quote:If one requires (and publishes) privat information through illegal methods like fraud - then it is illegal.
Irrelevant. We are trying to establish fault for the suicide -- not legally culpability for disclosure of information.
Quote:To state that suizide is just a choice is a insane and dishonest generalisation.
Take it easy. I'm not being dishonest or insane. You make a choice to commit suicide. It doesn't matter if it is ordered at gunpoint, you have a choice then between suicide and murder.
Quote:Yes in the end it is a choice, but the circumstances which lead to that choice are the more importent factor in such cases.
What about my statement said that circumstances are not important? You said I was being dishonest and then admitted it was a choice. Now, the circumstances of her suicide have A. not been proven to have fuckall to do with the prank and B. Would still leave it being a choice, either way.
Quote:She probably could have lost her job or would have been made responsibel for the breach of trust and couldnt coop with those circumstances - maybe she wasnt even depressed befor that or even after that - but the accumilating circumstances drove her into a state of panic - thereby no harassment being involved.
I'm going to say this one last time before I give up. She did not breach anyone's trust. She was not the person responsible for giving away the information. She handed the phone to another nurse who gave out the information. The woman who committed suicide was working reception and passed off the call. That is all.
Quote:But it does seem to me that she felt guilty for what has happened and therefor comitted suicide.
Correlation does not equal causation, in spite of what every idiot reporting on the subject thinks.
Quote:Alltogether, I didn`t claim that they were responsible for her suicide (because I know that I cant prove that), but I do make them responsible for gaining access to privat information through frogery.
Which is irrelevant to this conversation. Also, forgery is not the word. Forgery means to replicate an object, document, etc., with the purpose of passing it off as genuine. Dressing as another person is not forgery. It's called impersonation and is probably not illegal in the UK.
