Ok, learning out of the last conversation, I want to underline that I will try to be less verbose and will even try, although I dont like it, to be nice urrrghhh.
I am aware that the conversation initialy within this thread was centered arround the question if the 2 "pranksters" were responsible for her suicide.
I simply wanted to add my additional opinion that by deluding the nurse by posing as family members and thereby gaining access to classified information, they were making themselves guilty of fraud, or identety fraud, or whatever fraud.
The question if that fraud was her fault? No she couldnt have known that she was being conned.
I dont know what you mean by giving an example and then stating that one has the choice between suicide and murder.
There are countless situations out of which a suizide can occure all of which include an amount of pressure put on the individual. The pressure put on that Individual - and the messures which could be undertaken to resolve that pressure - is to me the far more importent factor than the choice of suicide which resolves out of that pressure. One should never dismiss the circumstances which lead a individual to commiting suizide and concentrate on the "choice" alone. That would almoust be social darwinism.
Jet i did not conclude out of the given example that the pressure which lead her into commiting suizide was the built up through the actions of the two "pranksters". Eaven if it was, it is, as far as i know, not a criminal action. I only can assume that the pressure which mounted on her came through the actions of these two individuals but can only put the burden of social responsibility on them - but not legal responisbility.
And yes I agree she didn`t breach anyones trust and I am aware that it was a other nurse which gave away the privat information, but one can assume out of the resulting suicide of the individual that she eighter felt guilty or also had to face consequences.
These assumtions by myself do not make me an "idiot"
bottom line:
I think that broadcasting privat medical information of a patient without that patients consent is a breach of that individuals right to privacy. ( I think because I am not sure of the legal situation in the UK, but sure about where I live)
I think that by impersonating family members of the privat persons of whom they gained privat medical information in order to gain that information is a crime
I think that ignoring the pressure put on an individual which leads that individual into commiting suizide is morally wrong.
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It would be like ignoring the fact that a schoolboy who hanged himself in the closet, bullied before taking that choice.
Or ignoring that that the man who shot himself had just lost his entire fortune.
Suizides are in most cases decisions taken out of desperation and not out of clear thinking.
But I must underline that I do not know for sure, if the pressure coming out of her decision lead to her suizide. And therefor "In dubio pro Reo".
This however doesn`t mean that I and others cannot assume that the pressure leading to her suizide came out of that situation, and tell them that they should have thought those actions over.
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I noticed in the end that suicide is writen as Suizid in german but i am to lazy to correct that mistake.
I am aware that the conversation initialy within this thread was centered arround the question if the 2 "pranksters" were responsible for her suicide.
I simply wanted to add my additional opinion that by deluding the nurse by posing as family members and thereby gaining access to classified information, they were making themselves guilty of fraud, or identety fraud, or whatever fraud.
The question if that fraud was her fault? No she couldnt have known that she was being conned.
I dont know what you mean by giving an example and then stating that one has the choice between suicide and murder.
There are countless situations out of which a suizide can occure all of which include an amount of pressure put on the individual. The pressure put on that Individual - and the messures which could be undertaken to resolve that pressure - is to me the far more importent factor than the choice of suicide which resolves out of that pressure. One should never dismiss the circumstances which lead a individual to commiting suizide and concentrate on the "choice" alone. That would almoust be social darwinism.
Jet i did not conclude out of the given example that the pressure which lead her into commiting suizide was the built up through the actions of the two "pranksters". Eaven if it was, it is, as far as i know, not a criminal action. I only can assume that the pressure which mounted on her came through the actions of these two individuals but can only put the burden of social responsibility on them - but not legal responisbility.
And yes I agree she didn`t breach anyones trust and I am aware that it was a other nurse which gave away the privat information, but one can assume out of the resulting suicide of the individual that she eighter felt guilty or also had to face consequences.
These assumtions by myself do not make me an "idiot"
bottom line:
I think that broadcasting privat medical information of a patient without that patients consent is a breach of that individuals right to privacy. ( I think because I am not sure of the legal situation in the UK, but sure about where I live)
I think that by impersonating family members of the privat persons of whom they gained privat medical information in order to gain that information is a crime
I think that ignoring the pressure put on an individual which leads that individual into commiting suizide is morally wrong.
-
It would be like ignoring the fact that a schoolboy who hanged himself in the closet, bullied before taking that choice.
Or ignoring that that the man who shot himself had just lost his entire fortune.
Suizides are in most cases decisions taken out of desperation and not out of clear thinking.
But I must underline that I do not know for sure, if the pressure coming out of her decision lead to her suizide. And therefor "In dubio pro Reo".
This however doesn`t mean that I and others cannot assume that the pressure leading to her suizide came out of that situation, and tell them that they should have thought those actions over.
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I noticed in the end that suicide is writen as Suizid in german but i am to lazy to correct that mistake.
