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Your Views on Dawkins?
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RE: Your Views on Dawkins?
(December 18, 2012 at 2:47 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:
(December 18, 2012 at 2:25 am)clemdog14 Wrote: Hello.

I do not claim to be a scientist. I'm just investigating whether or not Dawkin's views hold up logically.


From which perspective?

Scientifically as the man is a Molecular biologist.
Or are you claiming/ assuming that he is a god and one must look at Richard Dawkins arguments philosophically?

I am looking at some of his arguments philosophically. I am not attacking his scientific expertise.

(December 18, 2012 at 2:25 am)clemdog14 Wrote: Here is one of the problems from God Delusion. Dawkins incorrectly assumes that one should accept unguided Darwinian evolution over the existence of God.

Wonderful!! Have you finished the book?? have you read any of his other works??

How about Hitchens? Harris? Dennett? a bazillion other critics of this abrahamic deity ?

I read most of God Delusion, however, the ad hominems got old really quickly. As for the others, I'm getting there ;D

No. Dawkins does not " incorrectly assumes that one should accept unguided Darwinian evolution over the existence of God."

If I remember the book clearly he raises the question of why have a god at all as evolution is clearly demonstrated down to the molecular level.

I understand, I am not looking at the whole premise of the book, rather, I am investigating a claim that he made which appears to be logically invalid.

Once again this: " incorrectly assumes that one should accept unguided Darwinian evolution over the existence of God." was for the evidence that I posted. Not on the whole thesis of the book.


(December 18, 2012 at 2:25 am)clemdog14 Wrote: The kicker is that even though he states both are exceedingly improbable, he still concedes that we should accept the former based on that its the "best explanation." This does not follow. Why should I pick the former if both are exceedingly improbable? Couldn't one say that one could remain agnostic on choosing between the two?

This is the most sense you have made so far...keep coming



Thank you.
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Your Views on Dawkins? - by clemdog14 - December 18, 2012 at 1:23 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Faith No More - December 18, 2012 at 1:32 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Jackalope - December 18, 2012 at 1:55 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Cato - December 18, 2012 at 1:57 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Voltron - December 18, 2012 at 1:59 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by KichigaiNeko - December 18, 2012 at 2:10 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by clemdog14 - December 18, 2012 at 2:25 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by KichigaiNeko - December 18, 2012 at 2:47 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by clemdog14 - December 18, 2012 at 2:58 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Voltron - December 18, 2012 at 3:26 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Cato - December 18, 2012 at 4:00 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Aractus - December 18, 2012 at 4:23 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Cato - December 18, 2012 at 4:29 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Aractus - December 18, 2012 at 4:35 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Cato - December 18, 2012 at 4:42 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by KichigaiNeko - December 18, 2012 at 4:45 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Mister Agenda - December 18, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Brian37 - December 18, 2012 at 2:46 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by KichigaiNeko - December 18, 2012 at 3:15 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by clemdog14 - December 18, 2012 at 3:19 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by KichigaiNeko - December 18, 2012 at 3:28 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by clemdog14 - December 18, 2012 at 3:34 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Voltron - December 18, 2012 at 4:17 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by clemdog14 - December 18, 2012 at 4:06 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Cato - December 18, 2012 at 4:19 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by KichigaiNeko - December 18, 2012 at 4:21 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Aractus - December 18, 2012 at 4:30 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Aractus - December 18, 2012 at 4:16 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by KichigaiNeko - December 18, 2012 at 4:25 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by clemdog14 - December 18, 2012 at 4:35 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Voltron - December 18, 2012 at 4:54 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Cato - December 18, 2012 at 5:01 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Aractus - December 18, 2012 at 4:46 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by downbeatplumb - December 18, 2012 at 4:57 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by KichigaiNeko - December 18, 2012 at 5:00 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Aractus - December 18, 2012 at 5:02 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by downbeatplumb - December 18, 2012 at 5:08 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Aractus - December 18, 2012 at 7:35 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Cato - December 18, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by downbeatplumb - December 18, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Aractus - December 19, 2012 at 3:20 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Cyberman - December 19, 2012 at 9:57 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by downbeatplumb - December 19, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Cato - December 18, 2012 at 5:11 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by KichigaiNeko - December 18, 2012 at 4:47 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Gilgamesh - December 18, 2012 at 4:55 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by KichigaiNeko - December 18, 2012 at 4:57 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 19, 2012 at 8:16 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Aractus - December 18, 2012 at 4:57 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by pocaracas - December 18, 2012 at 6:14 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Aractus - December 18, 2012 at 9:04 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by KichigaiNeko - December 18, 2012 at 9:07 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Aractus - December 18, 2012 at 9:13 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by LastPoet - December 18, 2012 at 9:13 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by KichigaiNeko - December 18, 2012 at 9:46 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Great Ape - December 18, 2012 at 9:32 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by pocaracas - December 18, 2012 at 10:31 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by LastPoet - December 18, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by pocaracas - December 18, 2012 at 10:48 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Great Ape - December 18, 2012 at 10:37 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by LastPoet - December 18, 2012 at 11:06 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Kirbmarc - December 18, 2012 at 12:45 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Mister Agenda - December 18, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by clemdog14 - December 18, 2012 at 2:12 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Minimalist - December 18, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by mr.atheist - December 18, 2012 at 6:24 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Ryantology - December 19, 2012 at 3:29 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Gilgamesh - December 19, 2012 at 5:06 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Ryantology - December 19, 2012 at 10:37 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Great Ape - December 19, 2012 at 10:06 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Faith No More - December 19, 2012 at 10:23 am
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by mohnjorrow - January 23, 2013 at 12:30 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Nine - January 23, 2013 at 5:18 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by mohnjorrow - January 23, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Norfolk And Chance - January 23, 2013 at 5:15 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Ace Otana - January 23, 2013 at 5:18 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by LastPoet - January 23, 2013 at 5:21 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by Ace Otana - January 23, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RE: Your Views on Dawkins? - by TromboneAtheist - January 23, 2013 at 7:05 pm
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