RE: Destroying "nothing causing something" AKA Quantum Mechanics of The Gaps
December 30, 2012 at 8:56 am
(December 30, 2012 at 1:47 am)SavedByChrist94 Wrote: As I destroyed here, http://www.christianforums.com/t7695364-8/#post61720995
Nothing has no property, something has a property. in order for nothing to cause something, then nothing would need a property in which something has.
Something has property(properties) and nothing has no properties or at least the properties of nothingness.
How then can nothing cause something?
It cannot as if nothing caused something, it would need the property of it's creation, it has none.
also if nothing caused something then it would need an eternal sort of property to do so, which means that it's something instead of nothing.
nothing therefore causes, nothing. in order for you to prove that nothing can cause something you need to prove that it has the properties to do so, that it's own properties of nothingness is something, however nothing is not something and a property is something, therefore nothing wouldn't really be nothing.
Nothing can only cause, nothing. The Cause of the universe therefore cannot be nothing as that is now an Impossibility. The Cause of the universe is not material, nor is it nothing.
therefore with Creation Ex Nihilo, The Cause has the properties needed to create the universe, yet The Cause is Immaterial since not material, and not nothing, and The Cause caused the universe out of nothing. and The Cause is God(The Trinity of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit), there's no escaping it.
your whole thread has been destroyed, don't ever in a debate bring up "nothing causing nothing".
That's only a taste of my destruction of "atheism", The Holy Spirit is with me and you will not win.
Yes, you seem to have all the destructive power of...... well, you have the destructive power of a bowl of chocolate pudding.
I could come at you from so many angles, but first off, your logic seems to be this: The universe exists, everything exists for a reason, therefore God. That's pretty faulty logic y'got there, bub. I think the most notable flaw is that science has pretty strongly determined that the big bang actually created the universe. If you're going to ask 'what created the big bang,' I have to admit, I don't know..... yet. If your basis for belief in God is that I don't know something, that's kinda the definition of the God of the gaps, which is a god that will get smaller and weaker as my knowledge grows.
I think another question for Christian boy here is, if everything that exists has a cause and you think God is the cause for the universe, what is the cause for God? I mean, all powerful being able to create all existance.... that's a pretty hefty being you got there. Can't come from nowhere, can he?
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"If you cling to something as the absolute truth and you are caught in it, when the truth comes in person to knock on your door you will refuse to let it in." ~ Siddhartha Gautama